• umbrella@lemmy.ml
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    4 days ago

    i mean theyve always been openly couping and subjugating the rest of the world. its just been successfull for their own population for most of this time.

    as the meme says, its just ran out of space to expand and its now fucking over their own people and allies instead.

    what fascists are doing right now in the us is not much different from what they have been doing to south america, africa and east asia for quite some time now.

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      3 days ago

      Imperialist ≠ fascist

      America was often imperialist, only had periods of fascist political movements and has been transitioning for a while.

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        they are not the same thing per se, but imperialism is a fascist strategy. genociding brown people or otherwise oppressing them for money sounds pretty fascistic to me.

        its just that its on a worldwide stage now, so the in-group is even more insulated from seeing it.

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          3 days ago

          Racism is not fascism. Imperialism is not fascism. Nationalism isn’t facism. They are characteristics that sometimes or often lead to facism. Facism has a fairly explicit definition. Things can be a part of each other and overlap each other without being each other.

          If I make a snowman, that doesn’t mean that the carrot is a snowman or every snow sphere is a snowman. You can say that when you see me laying out the carrot with 3 balls of snow and a hat, it is leading to a snowman, but it has not always been a snowman.

          But yes, facism is a huge danger and on the rise all over the world. Not even just in white western countries either.

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            when racism, imperialism and nationalism have been a main part of a given country’s identity for decades, yea thats fascism, and its precisely my point here!

            don’t forget US segregation laws inspired the nazi treatment of the jews, and you havent changed much in that aspect since then, honestly. i don’t even need to say anything about nationalism, even americans can see it clear as the day. these things don’t lead to fascism, they are the alarm bells.

            fascism is rising outside the west because of how tight of a grip you have on us and how you meddle with our electoral system (eg. imposing dictatorships on us). milei is widely and openly supported by western institutions. brazil has seen a lot of meddling for bolsonaro to succeed, also somewhat in the open. i could go on about this one.