https://torrentfreak.com/italy-approves-piracy-shield-vpn-dns-proposal-risk-of-prison-for-isps-intact-241001/

As title. Italy is decided to pass a law that basically creates a chinese-type firewall in the country. The question is simple: even if I’m not doing anything illegal, my VPN provider will have to know what am I doing to report it in case it’s illegal, or face jail.

So how could my traffic remain private in this scenario?

Can a VPN provider with no logs policy be held accountable of anything? Can it actually know what I’m doing?

  • ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    9 hours ago

    Yes, any VPN provider will see what’s in your traffic, no way around that…ever…no matter who you choose

    however not all VPN providers will keep any kind of record of your traffic, so it only exists briefly in their servers as it passes through and then it’s gone. This is how companies like mullvad operate. Even if the cops come with a warrant, there will be no evidence because nothing is saved.

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      8 hours ago

      Aren’t there a few VPN providers that don’t even install writable storage in their servers? I can’t remember which, but I’m sure there’s at least one that boots their machines off of read-only media and only installation hard drives in the servers used for storing login credentials.

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        7 hours ago

        Yes there are, your data still resides in their servers as it passes through them though. But like I said, as soon as it has been processed there is no log of it so it is only present briefly and not in a persistent manner.

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      Yes, any VPN provider will see what’s in your traffic, no way around that…ever…no matter who you choose

      Yes, there is a way around it, just use https.

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        8 hours ago

        Doesn’t that just hide the specific content? They still know where the content is coming from?

        And not everything done online, especially things that can get you in trouble with authorities (like torrenting copyrighted material) can be done through https.

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          Basically everything online can be done encrypted. bittorrent has had support for encryption for years. There are other challenges like hiding from DPI and the thing that you broadcast your torrent IP but the content can be securely emcrypted.