• The Snark Urge@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    If you require that people reliably screech for them not to be hypocrites on the subject of genocide, then it is not genocide you take issue with so much as the inconvenience of their protestation.

    • YourPrivatHater@ani.social
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      24 hours ago

      No, its the antisemitism i don’t like… There is no genocide except for the shitshow the terrorists and Iran are doing. They explicitly target population centers (As seen on the video) Israel strikes against the terrorists (defense) is called genocide, but this is repeatedly downplayed and called “fighting back oppression” the sheer amount of mental gymnastics is astounding.

      • bouh@lemmy.world
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        35 minutes ago

        So there are only terrorist in Gaza and no child died there because of the war? Or do you mean that all living being in Gaza are terrorists, including humanitarian help?

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        22 hours ago

        The people protesting genocide don’t like antisemitism either. Many strong voices on the matter are explicitly Jewish. The vast majority of the others have no qualms with the faith and hate its association with such brutal destruction, because it does in fact bring out those who are antisemitic.

        It’s disingenuous to align their dissent with hate, whether or not an antisemitic faction is within the receiving end of the genocide. “Within” being the operative word, as there have been many more innocent victims who are just trying to live. Dissent is only that, not support for more conflict. Hate begets hate and terror begets terror.

        I know I won’t convince you from your “there is no genocide” view, or your belief that any terror is one sided. But I hope you can understand that none of it is black and white, and there are decades of unfortunate context. I won’t even claim to understand it all myself, as I see it as a culmination of too many things. All I know for sure is that people deserve peace.

        I don’t even mean to come from a “both sides” perspective or rhetoric. Israel has an outweighed power and support from the west, including my own government. If I had to sum up my position, I would say that much of what followed WW2 has unfortunately led to more of the hate and oppression that seemed to be sworn against.

        Not really sure why I even felt compelled to write this out to your comment in particular rather than just scrolling on, but here I am.

        • The_v@lemmy.world
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          18 hours ago

          Basic historical facts.

          Israel has systematically stolen freedom, land, property, life and liberty from the Palestinians. They have committed untold atrocities since the end of WW2.

          In a futile attempt to stop Israel, Palistinians and other Arabs have resorted to acts of terror, murder, and other atrocities.

          Both sides have been funded/supplied as a proxy war between nuclear capable nations.

          In my opinion the timing of this war is very suspicious. The traditional suppliers of the Palestinians are pouring their resources into Ukraine. This has left the Palistinians conveniently weak in resources for a war.