What you need to know

  • As Dragon’s Dogma 2 launched on PC Thursday evening, a previously hidden suite of microtransactions became available for purchase.
  • Things you can buy for the single player ARPG include fast travel points, Rift Crystals for hiring Pawns and buying special items, appearance change and revival consumables, a special camping kit that weighs less than normal ones, and a few others.
  • In response to the microtransactions, Dragon’s Dogma 2 is being review bombed, with the game currently sitting at “Mostly Negative” on Steam.
    • yesman@lemmy.world
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      7 months ago

      They won’t stop doing it. Think of how many live service games have failed. Are the investors going to stop drooling over that Fortnight $$? AAA game are made to please investors, not players.

      Boiling everything down to econ101 serves to absolve the bad behavior or games companies as “rational actors” while placing the blame for shitty games practices on “stupid” gamers.

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    7 months ago

    They almost got me with preorder last night, but I was like nah I’ll just wait and see in the morning. I love how i’ve been reading for weeks that “it’s good they made fast travel hard”, like preparing us for a fast travel MTX. Or it’s the greatest character creator of all time, but to edit after you have to spend more money - the game is basically $100 canadian. Absurd.

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      7 months ago

      Fuck, really? I mean, I’m not like a die-hard fan of the game(s) or anything, but the first one is still pretty enjoyable. And it’s $5 on steam.

      And it’s a totally complete game, with an in-game barber/character customizer. You can’t change your character’s body type though, only the hair and skin colors/styles.

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        7 months ago

        You can buy the MTX items InGame at the vendors. Still shitty to have the MTX but yea…

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    7 months ago

    Is this an always online game? If not, im sure wemod will have cheats for it soon enough to give you these items.

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    7 months ago

    So these are just speed up purchases that you can get in game? Seems scumy but not a deal breaker. There were what 3 or 4 easy port crystals in the first game, and to get the the max you had to keep restarting the game or playing it over and over. And once you knew where you were going and had some port crystals in good spots, you could get through main story in less then an hour. You have the chance to easily get multiple of any item. If its the same or similar in the sequel, why waste money, unless you have limited time to play games or maybe you’re just not into sinking dozens of hours into anything. Honestly its stupid, but as long as no one is blocked from getting the items in game this is such a non issue.

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              7 months ago

              I’m playing the game right now moron, you don’t have to spend a single dime for any of the things you spend money on. It is pay to play faster, cry more about it. Your experience isn’t tarnished because someone else spent more money on the game than you.

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                7 months ago

                The fact that the MTX exists in the first place is just predatory. It doesn’t matter if it’s optional.

                Don’t forget that things got this bad to begin with because everyone kept defending early MTX with the same excuse. These companies are always trying to push shit. Give them an excuse and they’ll run with it.

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                  6 months ago

                  The problem that everyone seems to be missing with this “slippery slope” bullshit is that you all acknowledge that there are MTX systems worse than this one. That worse one likely being P2W MTX, because that is undeniably the worst form.

                  The RE4 remake literally had P2W. You could buy the weapon upgrade items for real money. DD2s MTX are in no way P2W.

                  So to organize the factors I’ve presented as they pertain to the discussion, plainly:

                  1. Everyone wants to avoid P2W because it’s a bad sign for games. P2W is the reason why gatcha is the way that it is.

                  2. The Resident Evil 4 remake (oh you know, Capcoms biggest franchise) had a P2W system (that thing we just established as being the worst form of MTX).

                  3. DD2 has an MTX system so functionally worthless that I’m about to beat the game and the only reason I’ve even considered spending money is because I’m lazy. You actually get more out of spending your money on gatcha games (on literal fucking P2W scams).

                  4. We reach this conversation, where you’re suggesting that “It’S a SlIpPeRy SlOpE”.

                  I cannot fully express through words how genuinely stupid it is to be picking this game to cry about how bad microtransactions are. Genuinely, this is some of the dumbest shit I’ve seen from gamers. In your analogy, we already reached the bottom of the slope and the people fucking cheered for it.

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        7 months ago

        Not defending the mx in Dragons Dogma 2 but at least in the first one I think the way fast travel works was kinda good. It’s cumbersome and not very flexible but it fits the kind of game it is and you have to actually think about where you want to go instead of zipping around the map. Imo

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          7 months ago

          Besides the unlimited use ferrystone, which doesn’t work in bitterblack isle, that was added to the first game later, the fast traveling works pretty much the exact same.

          If anything, there’s more fast travel options in Dragon’s Dogma 2 thanks to the ox carts which let you skip time until you arrive, or get ambushed, which lets you continue once you clear the ambush. And that’s just from well under a few hours of my time in game.

          Also in the significantly less than 24 hours I’ve had, rift crystals, the currency they’re selling for “convenience”, are quite easy to get, and you absolutely never need to spend them on pawns, just drop the max pawn level to your own level or under and they’re free to use.

          I’ve already gotten enough to do a full appearance change, another thing they’re selling for “convenience”, without specifically trying to get them, just having fun playing the game, exploring, and completing quests.

          And the tents? They aren’t consumable unless maybe they get broken from ambushes, which I have yet to have occur after over 5 uses of the cheapest tent, likely because I clear the area around me first. All that’s affected is weight, which becomes less of a problem the more you play regardless.

          Wakestones? If you’re dying, you’re not prepared or ready enough, come back later, it’s really that simple. I’ve already gotten a wakestone shard randomly, which you combine a few to get a full wakestone, which seems way faster than the first game given the much larger scale of this one. Not to mention that the ones you can buy as DLC are limited in that you can only buy 5 total, ever, but likely you can get endless amounts later in the game.

          The rift incense? The one offered is the actual worst one available, it’s random, as opposed to the pre-set ones you can get in game.

          Even the rift crystals you can only buy a limited amount for “convenience” when you can get unlimited just for playing the game.

          I’m sorry if I went off topic and on an extended reply, just a bit frustrated that I’ve been seeing tons of people spreading outright wrong and incorrect information about basic parts of the game. I’ve played both games now and gladly will clear up a ton of stuff like that. It’s one thing to criticize the microtransactions themselves accurately for what they are, and another thing entirely to lie out of ignorance just to have more to complain about.

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            7 months ago

            I totally agree with you on the fact that people act like Capcom murdered their grandma or something. There is no need to make stuff up when the facts are bad enough on their own. I guess one reason people are so upset is the fact that microtransactions can be an actual and dangerous addiction to some people and are usually only found in multi-player games or straight up casino type stuff. Dragons Dogma is a beloved game and cult hit for a reason and this whole thing absolutely taints it’s “reputation”.

            Anyway, I think it’s great you seem to still enjoy the game and that’s what matters at the end of the day. Cheers!