An artist who infamously duped an art contest with an AI image is suing the U.S. Copyright Office over its refusal to register the image’s copyright.

In the lawsuit, Jason M. Allen asks a Colorado federal court to reverse the Copyright Office’s decision on his artwork Theatre D’opera Spatialbecause it was an expression of his creativity.

Reuters says the Copyright Office refused to comment on the case while Allen in a statement complains that the office’s decision “put me in a terrible position, with no recourse against others who are blatantly and repeatedly stealing my work.”

  • chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    5 hours ago

    Is the diction of the buyer to the artist in the final paragraph of your argument make the painting a novel? You have you answer.

    Yes, companies can copyright specific pigments, but that doesn’t give them ownership over the paintings created by them, only protect for their own IP vis-à-vis the pigments. In the same way, the company that created the LLM may protect their work but hold no ownership on the art it produces.

    Who drew the art is of no import when the artist isn’t a sentient lifeform. By your definition, a photographer cannot own a picture because the camera captured it.

    • FlowVoid@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      3 hours ago

      Yes, companies can copyright specific pigments

      No, you cannot copyright a pigment. Companies can use colors as trademarks, but that just means that competitors can’t use the color in a way that would confuse customers. For example, you can’t start a courier service with vans that are the same color as UPS vans, because that might confuse customers.

      You are still free to use that color in ways that are unrelated to UPS, for instance as an eye shadow.

      Patents are another matter entirely. You don’t patent the color, but you might be able to patent the media (e.g. a new formula for quick drying paint).

    • macniel
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      5 hours ago

      In the same way, the company that created the LLM may protect their work

      What does the company protect here? The system, or the model? Which the latter being ill-gotten by scraping already copyrighted content?

      Who drew the art is of no import when the artist isn’t a sentient lifeform

      It was an allegory. The supposed artist is the commissioner and the LLM being the artist. And since you can’t copyright something you didn’t made, well tough luck getting copyright on AI slop.

      By your definition, a photographer cannot own a picture because the camera captured it.

      No, because as a photographer you hold the tool in your hand. You can adjust everything, even the subject. And its all in your own control and it takes your skill in managing it to shoot the perfect photo.

      If we would take your interpretation of my definition, then nobody can own anything since they always have to use a tool to create something.

      • SzethFriendOfNimi@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        edit-2
        5 hours ago

        It’s a good analogy but one thing to consider is that the artist is the copyright holder.

        The company that directed it only has the copyright either by explicit contract transferring rights or because it’s a work for hire where the employee’s copyright work is “automatically” transferred to their employer.

        Some interesting case law on that from Disney artists, comic book authors, etc

        https://copyright.gov/circs/circ30.pdf

      • chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        4 hours ago

        What does the company protect here? The system, or the model? Which the latter being ill-gotten by scraping already copyrighted content?

        That depends on what is proprietary to the company. If they have created the system and the model, then both.

        The supposed artist is the commissioner and the LLM being the artist.

        That is a highly subjective point of view. Let’s look at music. If a musician loses their arms and can no longer play an instrument, but instead dictates the chords to someone else to play, who is the artist? Who can claim ownership of the piece?

        No, because as a photographer you hold the tool in your hand. You can adjust everything, even the subject. And its all in your own control and it takes your skill in managing it to shoot the perfect photo.

        Spoken like someone who has never used an LLM before and thinks it magically produces exactly what you want on the first time, every time.

        If we would take your interpretation of my definition, then nobody can own anything since they always have to use a tool to create something.

        No, that’s everyone else’s argument. Mine is that the tool is the LLM, and that when art is created with it, it should be open to copyright.