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    You don’t want the stock market destroyed. That is how retirements are funded as well.

    You want to restrict ownership of an individual stock. Limit them to 5% or so. Also make every stock have 1 vote, no exceptions.

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      You don’t want the stock market destroyed. That is how retirements are funded as well.

      Thus illustrating [one of] the ulterior motive[s] behind replacing pensions with 401(k)s.

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        Pensions are funded by the stock market as well. Pension funds are some the largest landlords as well.

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      No, the stock market needs to go. It is the primary vector of mass exploitation and binds us all to these immoral chains. It makes Mr and Mrs Greenbury down the street as complacent in Nestle’s filfthy acts as the CEOs themselves, because everyone is drooling for line go up, nothing else. Wealth chasing is the heroin addiction for Mother Terra, and we will chase this dragon until the world is charred.

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        The stock market is how pensions are funded. That means the largest loss of wealth to the middle class.

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          Thats great, you can still save pensions. Use the wealth you are redistributing to ensure pensions. The billionaires have enough for all of us to retire. I’m not advocating for instant destruction. I’m advocating for removing it and replacing it with a system that promotes cooperation and resource efficiency instead of one that solely focuses on financial gain.

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            The stock market is one of the reasons why we don’t have pensions anymore. Companies realize that it’s a lot cheaper to pawn off the responsibility of covering your own retirement on the people who work their entire lives for you.

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              They actually gave the job to a bunch of sycophants who transform it into some immaterial form using strange magic. It is unclear if this will hinder or benefit you. The sycophants use their commission to buy blow.

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      Well, those suggestions would destroy the stock market. Nobody would ever register their company on the stock market if it meant giving up 95% of the control.

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        Really which company do you have more than 1 vote per share or have more than 5%? Very few people are given either.

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          All non-stock companies which is the majority of all companies. That’s the problem. When a company applies for a stock market registration, it means that they’re selling off control and profit sharing of the company in order to gain investments to expand.

          All companies start with a single or two owners. The transition from owning everything to including others won’t happen if it means giving up to the majority of control, whether that’s 50% or 5/95%. That’s why many companies get stuck on 51%. It only ever comes over 50% when someone dies or makes a mature decision of letting others control “their” company.