• lime!@feddit.nu
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    1 month ago

    it’s not replacement, it’s expansion. our population has grown by about 2%. also, since we pivoted to a “service economy”, we are down on entry level jobs, which are being taken by immigrants because 1) the higher-education jobs all have stricter requirements and 2) they have more work experience and are willing to work for less than swedish teenagers.

    none of this matters to the people who fear them taking over. it’s pure populism.

    • barsoap@lemm.ee
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      1 month ago

      I was talking about East Germany, I’m not deep into the Swedish data just as a note though expansion and replacement don’t necessarily exclude each other. From the anecdotes I heard though Sweden has basically been breeding Banlieues, which by definition aren’t replacements but new developments, and then there’s the country side where there might actually be replacement but nobody cares because Acke is happy that an Indonesian nurse now works in the hospital because she’s cute and all the Swedish women went to the city.

      The most dastardly thing I heard is the situation of Swedes with immigrant background who were in their early twenties or such when shit started to hit the fan: Previously they were perfectly well integrated, now they get lumped up with the problematic folks.

      On the upside: Every country seems to go through a phase of messing it up. In Germany first we didn’t care about integration of e.g. Turks at all, assuming that they’ll go home one day – then they started to open greengrocers and Döner shops, they’re an enterprising bunch. Then we told them to make sure to talk German with their kids at home, with disastrous results: Kids ended up speaking neither proper German nor proper Turkish: If you don’t become properly proficient in a language – any language – as a kid your overall language processing capabilities are going to stay stunted forever, and we did that to a whole generation while thinking we were doing good. The right advise to give is to tell parents to speak their native language at home, the kids will learn German playing on the streets, in kindergarten, at school, no issue. Now we’ve progressed to more advanced fuck-ups, like not screening refugees for PTSD: If we don’t, ISIS will be happy to do it with less than desirable results.

      Swedes simply seem to have more talent at messing it up than even us. As said: Start to complain early, before shit hits the fan. Leave it to a Swede to be shocked at a German complaining about a pothole, “but we’ve got procedures for that I’m sure the town knows about it they’re terribly busy you really shouldn’t say anything they’ll get around to do it”…

      And that really, really doesn’t mesh with a government which doesn’t go out of its way to figure out what people are worried about, thinking they could know what’s up by looking at statistics.