China's economy risks heading into recession as Producer Prices enter deflation - Chemicals and the Economy
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China's economy has been the growth engine for the global economy since 2008's financial crisis. But now it seems possible it could enter recession

cross-posted from: https://feddit.org/post/3202701

China’s problem is essentially that it has too much debt.

The main role of debt is to bring forward demand from the future. […] China’s stimulus has kept on increasing since 2008, until it peaked with the end of the pandemic.

Now China risks entering a classic ‘debt trap’ where new loans are taken out to repay existing debt – not to create new demand. In other words, the debt is no longer being used to generate growth. In turn, this risks generating a downward spiral.

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The underlying problem, of course, is China’s massive housing bubble. It was probably the largest ever seen. And it has been bursting for some time, with home sales slumping, as the Bloomberg chart shows.

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China needs to urgently boost [domestic] consumption and downsize manufacturing.

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  • Housing is currently unaffordable for most people
  • The real estate market is an outsize risk for the economy – it is 29% of GDP, and 70% of China’s urban wealth
  • Given China’s ageing population, it seems likely [that housing sales] volume could drop at least another 20% before the market bottoms
  • That will mean China will need to import a lot less oil, metals, plastics and everything else connected to the bubble.
  • shaserlark@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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    20 hours ago

    Yeah kinda this, met way too many Economists who are on the economic right and most of the teaching is influenced by Chicago economics.

    I remember when a minimum wage got introduced where I am and my macroeconomics professor was incredibly proud to show how this would cause unemployment. Turned out the minimum wage was so far away from what would be the equilibrium wage that there wasn’t ever an oversupply of workers because the minimum wage would have to be much higher than any politician would ever set it in order to cause unemployment. That is assuming such a thing as the equilibrium wage would actually exist in the real world.