no one fucking told me about states banning RCV during all that yapping on here about how i should VOTE THIRD PARTY OR ELSE IM COMPLICIT in the DNCs CRIMES

it may or may not be joever, very blackpilled at this moment

edit it’s actually 10 states. 5 in the past two months.

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    It’s a system designed to keep the 2 parties in power. Voting third party means your vote is effectively wasted in a FPTP system

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      If enough people do it over time I wouldn’t think so right?

      Each time they would win over and over more seats.

      But of course that would require voters to recognize the situation, take the L and keep on continuing voting the third party

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          that video illustrates the problem with strategic voting: it consolidates parties. the lesson you sohuld learn from it is that strategic voting is actually voting against your own interest.

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          But that’s the point of a new party, to split the votes. In the end you need to create a wedge big enough that neither side can ignore

          But again, that takes way too much from people. They need to take the L a few times before actually pulling something worthwhile

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      Can you guess which party that holds a tenuous grasp over their constituents via fear would not want them having the option of voting for other people that might more closely align with their ideals and morals?

      I mean, technically it’s both parties at this point, but Republicans know that RCV will be the absolute death of the current version of their party which has devolved into little more than a reactionary ultranationalist faction.

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      If you can rank your votes and have multiple options available you actually have to stand for something in order for people to vote for you.

      Being against another party is not enough in such a system since there are more options available.

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        Union busting undermines the democratic co-determination in the company. However, for an American it is probably shocking that this does exist at all (at least in civilized countries). 😉

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      “don’t vote because it makes you complicit in your oppression” and similar

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          Can you explain to me how voting makes one complicit? And how not voting doesn’t make one complicit when the worse of two evils is elected?

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            Can you explain to me how voting makes one complicit? And how not voting doesn’t make one complicit when the worse of two evils is elected?

            if you vote to put someone in power, you are complicit in their actions in office. if you don’t vote for that person, you can’t be complicit.

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              Hmmm, no, that’s at least not how I think and feel about it. It’s akin to the Trolley Problem for me, where, if my inaction kills/negatively impacts more people than my action, I am morally obligated to take action.

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    hey, you can vote for a third party that represents your ideals and politics and it’s not throwing your vote away or voting for trump.

    you don’t have to feel blackpilled, the way out of this is past the winners of this next election, not through them.

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      This. Sounds like much but people need to take the L, and create a wedge big enough that neither side can stop noticing anymore