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    That would be nice, but is a far way off.

    https://alandforall.org is an interesting idea towards peaceful coexistence.

    At the moment you have a democracy in Israel, an authoritarian police state in the PA controlled West Bank, and an Islamist regime in Gaza.

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      It’s telling how a grass roots peace plan by Israelis and Palestinians gets downvoted here. You’re not interested in understanding or peace, it’s just about hating Israel.

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      Israel is not a democracy, except as a propaganda implement lol

      You are either the most gullible rube on the planet or pushing an agenda

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          “my arbitrary numbers pulled from my ass say that my ethnostate is slightly more democratic than the people we’re actively exterminating with bombs and starvation, and have prevented from having a functioning society. You should support us as a result”

          Do you honestly think that’s remotely convincing lmao

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            My ass is apparently a well respected scientific ranking with a published methodology.

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              Sounds like your ass is in lockstep with the US state department

              Actual source: The Economist, a journal that speaks for British millionaires.

              The Economist also at one point argued that Confederate victory would result in abolition faster than a Union victory. But don’t worry they totally supported abolition they were just really worried that it wouldn’t get done fast enough.

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                  I don’t need some stats to point out that it’s an apartheid settler state. You were bringing up the stats to deflect from criticism. Having the trappings of votes and parliament doesn’t change the material reality.

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                    Palestinians under PA or Hamas’ Gaza don’t even get trappings of elections.

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            Palestinians have failed to build a functioning democracy for themselves. They aren’t even politically united under one banner since Hamas took power in Gaza. Palestinians can’t even make peace among themselves.

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          I mean… The USA is far from democratic so it’s not as if it was a great example to follow?

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            Israel has improved on that ranking, while the USA became worse.

            And sure, Israel isn’t a perfect democracy, but it is certainly one.