• Moonrise2473@feddit.it
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    5 months ago

    Isn’t apple doing the same?

    Designed to fill the 5gb immediately so you’re going to buy more cloud space immediately

    When I had an iPhone, there was an annoying red dot on the settings icon “warning, you didn’t enable cloud backups for photos”, and if you enabled it become an annoying red dot “warning you ran out of iCloud space”

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      5 months ago

      It’s not an Apple fanboy but imo it’s a lot more transparent on their side. There’s a switch for each and every service to use iCloud or not in the settings. Services don’t just re-enable their usage of iCloud after some random update and most importantly, they don’t just re-install apps you previously deleted. Or bloatware.

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        5 months ago

        Yes, it doesn’t get re enabled but I totally hate that annoying red dot on settings if you don’t set iCloud

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          5 months ago

          That red dot should disappear if you disable iCloud (yes, it is different from not setting it up… it is not good, but you can get rid of it)

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          5 months ago

          Oh no, an annoying red dot. Microsoft are straight up hoovering up users data into the cloud by automatically enabling syncing. These two things are not even close to the same.

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            5 months ago

            it’s a dark pattern deliberately chosen to let people get annoyed and pay for icloud. On windows people instead will accidentally fill their onedrive account and that’s it. They won’t even know that they’re using it. It might send some scary emails like “your cloud backup is full!!!11 you gonna lose everything!!111” but those go directly in spam. Error messages in windows for regular users appear like “����� �������� �����������” - their eyes don’t have the right encoding to understand the message, so they just click OK and dismiss it. Instead, the red dot is prominent in the home screen of every iphone and bother also those that don’t read the error messages…

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              5 months ago

              Wow. I genuinely can’t believe people are upvoting you for this. Like yeah, I super agree it’s a dark pattern. Stealing people’s data is WAY worse though, uploading potentially sensitive photos or documents to their cloud with no user input. But according to you that’s fine because it’s less obtrusive and annoying? Yeesh I’m glad I don’t have your priorities.

              Edit: Like, have you seen most people’s home screens? They’ll have a dozen other “red dots” and it becomes part of the background. In the same way as you talk about with Windows errors. Here’s mine:

              Oh noooo, a red dot on the Settings app…with all the other red dots…