• eleitl@lemm.ee
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    2 个月前

    The conflict started more than a decade ago. Currently it’s a proxy war mostly limited to the territory of Ukraine and Russia. Other countries are in the pipeline.

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      2 个月前

      Oh we know. If Russia wins, Poland is next. Russia salami slicing started in 2014 with its first annexation of part of Ukrainian.

      • eleitl@lemm.ee
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        The next target after Russia loses against NATO will be China actually. And then Iran, North Korea. But you’ll get a total nuclear exchange well before, so it’s academical.

        So likely next proxy is Moldova, Romania, Georgia, Belorus. Poland is also a possibility, but not at first. Unless Belorus, but then we’re at tactical nukes stage already.

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          2 个月前

          Russia was the aggressor here. Ukraines wanted to go towards the west for a better life and protection from being further invaded by Russia. Putin is of the school of thought that Ukraine isn’t real. But it is the people of Ukraine who decide that.

          • eleitl@lemm.ee
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            2 个月前

            This war started more than a decade ago. Russian Federation only became a party some two years ago.

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                2 个月前

                Do not expect to find facts on Wikipedia when the overall propaganda volume is deafening.

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                  Generally I found it’s best to not argue with the “wisdom of the crowds” unless you really know the domain, and even then, with care.

                  Sorry it doesn’t say what you want.

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                The overthrow of a democratically elected president? That is what caused Eastern provinces to go into rebellion. Forcing those Eastern provinces to go back to being ruled by a pronato kyiv is impossible and will just lead to more fighting that will resolve nothing

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                  I’m sure those living in the seized parts of Ukraine are living in more of democracy now… /s

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                    Democracy never exists in an active warzone what does that have to do with how the conflict started?