• dubious@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    according to you.

    i just don’t want home invaders roaming the streets. the law is just a means to an end. i don’t care about justice for this young man. have fun with that last statement.

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      2 months ago

      OK, let’s start where we agree: home invasion is not OK, and it deserves punishment. Furthermore, I want to remove this individual from the public (until such time that they have been reformed, or at least served their sentence) so they are not able to repeat such behaviour.

      Here’s where we seem to disagree: you want punishment, seemingly, by any means necessary. My stance is, punish him based on the crime he directly committed.

      He was set to potentially recieve up to 25 years just for the burglary and then an additional 30 for murder and the judge dropped it to 24-30. So, if they had just charged and convicted him for the burglary would that not been enough for you? The murder charge, in this case really only provides for a slightly higher upper limit and probably increases time until he is eligible for parole. It’s also a slippery slope that can easily be used to pile on charges. So, is piling on the murder charge really worth it? He got caught, he was charged, he’s been convicted, they probably would’ve thrown the book at him just with the burglary charge. Seriously, do you really still think adding that murder charge is worth it?

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        2 months ago

        it’s really not my concern. i’m definitely not going to take the lenient side of the two choices. i’m 50. the longer the sentence he gets, the better the chances that i’ll be dead by he time he gets out. that’s ok with me. i’m not worried at all about the criminal in this case.

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          2 months ago

          Then I’m sorry, you don’t care about justice, you just want vengeance. Just remember this is a slippery slope and some day you might be on the losing end of it.

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            2 months ago

            quit telling me what i want. i’m the one that decides what i want. not you. i don’t care about your slippery slope. i know how to take care of myself. thanks for your concern.

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              2 months ago

              “Justice is a legal or moral process of evaluating and resolving conflicts, whereas revenge is a personal desire to cause harm or injury to someone who has wronged you.”

              You don’t give a fuck how they get to it, you just want punishment, that’s not moral process of evaluating or resolving conflict, it’s revenge.

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                2 months ago

                god, you fucking poindexters and your false dichotomies, and your googled definitions, and your fucking debate team bullshit. just fuck off okay? i disagree with you and you don’t get to define my motivations. do you fucking understand that, poindexter?

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                  2 months ago

                  All you want is revenge. You don’t care about justice, just accept that. You can’t beat logic with ad hominem attacks.

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                    2 months ago

                    all you want is to have the last word, so go ahead and have it. i’ll be living my guilt-free life undeterred by your lame attempt at trolling.