• ChocoboRocket@lemmy.world
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      Maybe if you’re on shrooms or LSD, yeah “it’s all the same if you use what they make maaaaaaan”

      But only if you ignore the power dynamics behind wealth, and aren’t aware of the concepts of bribery, temptation, and unlimited influence.

      Or the fact that people want greener options but they are intentionally unavailable, sabotaged, prohibitively expensive (but never subsidized), or publicly demonized in media with disinformation and propaganda.

      Between consumers and corporations, only one gets to call all the shots

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        Sustainable energy is heavily subsidised in Europe. Thanks to that we have 80% renewable energy production in Austria (and buy some non-renewable energy from other countries but still, we’re on a good way).

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      except that consumers do not have meaningful control over the companies and the corporate leaders do

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        You have control over whether you eat pork or tofu, don’t you? You have control over whether you buy a new iPhone or a used FairPhone, don’t you? You have control over whether you plan a trip via airplane or via train, don’t you?

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          a train ticket cross country costs thousands of dollars more than an equivalent class of airplane tickets so no, no I do not have that control

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                I did provide the price for a train ticket that is significantly cheaper than Match!!’s “thousands of dollars”, didn’t I?

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          Shifting the blame to the individual plays precisely into the hands of massive corporations. People buy what is available and cheapest, and without government intervention that’s going to be plastic packaging wrapped in more plastic.

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            Why not both? Companies that peel bananas and wrap them in plastic for sale are garbage companies. And people who buy them are garbage people.

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                So you’re telling me that there are people who cannot peel a banana, but who can simultaneously peel the plastic off a container and then eat the banana?