• apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    Never said I was a tankie bruh. A party that bases itself on a slightly more gentle fascism isn’t the cart we should be attaching ourselves to.

    It will never ever be the right election for y’all liberal centrists who shit post on left folks. It is always the next one. Point is, if we want to be rid of this fucking fascist shit, we have to build solidarity with the left.

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      7 months ago

      Never said I was a tankie bruh.

      Didn’t realize that I wasn’t allowed to point out tankie behavior like “Faster fascism Good, Actually” unless the poster self-identified, thank you for the information.

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      7 months ago

      Not interested in the whole yelling at each other thing, so genuinely asking here. What exactly does not voting democrat get the left in the US? Is the OP’s assumption that you want to accelerate fascism actually correct?

      So far I haven’t seen any reason other than either accelerationism or “because it makes me feel bad” and I refuse to believe that’s all that’s behind it.

      I’m really having a hard time, and I genuinely think it’s important to try to understand the points of view and beliefs of those we disagree with, rather than immediately turning to infighting.

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        7 months ago

        Political parties exist in the free market just like corporations. If they can’t earn votes a new party will form. It’s happened before and it will happen again. That’s why they message with fear. It’s effective at turning off any critical thinking.

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          7 months ago

          Political parties exist in the free market just like corporations.

          Tell me more about the political free market under Project 2025.

          In fact, tell me more about how quickly firms rise and fall in the free market. It’s instantaneous, right?

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        7 months ago

        Shifts the policies of the Democratic party so that they appeal to leftists. Not going to get into an ongoing debate, but just so you can’t say you haven’t seen any other reasons (which sounds fake to me but okay).

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          7 months ago

          I appreciate it. I’m not here to debate you and I have no reason to lie about not having seen anything else, though I’m honestly a bit hurt that you think that, but I guess you’ve been nothing but attacked so far so perhaps it’s understandable.

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            7 months ago

            Hey, remember when we all protest voted in 2016 and drove the Dem party SO far left?

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        7 months ago

        Idealism is great when you use it to fight for a better world.

        Idealism is privileged when you use it to deny any reduction in harm as not being ‘good enough’ to permit.

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          Idealism is privileged when you use it to deny any reduction in harm as not being ‘good enough’ to permit.

          It’s happens all the time when people argue against veganism saying that farming kills the animals in the field despite the fact that meat requires much more crop land to produce.