Created this account so I could create the community. Decided on lemm.ee because my main account is on aussie.zone, which does not allow community creation (and limits its communities to things about Australia). Figured lemm.ee is better than lemmy.world due to the latter’s performance/federation issues.

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  • Blaze (he/him)English
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    2 months ago

    I am asking if you think that there is any value in paying for a service based on open standards.

    Of course there is, but that’s not the only parameter to take into account here.

    First, as we have discussed already, and based on the other thread about instance costs, the vast majority of admins seem okay with the “donations cover the hosting costs” approach. There was only one other person who shared your view that “sysadmin time should also be paid rather than be volunteering”. Users seem to be okay with it too, otherwise they would migrate to your service.

    The other main parameter is how much money people are ready to dedicate to funding Fediverse projects.

    In the EU, 21% of people are at risk of poverty or social exclusion.

    House prices up by 47% in the EU between 2010 and 2022

    People have other priorities than funding Fediverse projects.

    It comes back to your comment about Lemmy users “holding a shiny new iPhone”. We do not have data on that, but based on the hate the Apple users gets every time they post iPhone users are probably in the minority.

    you making an extraordinary effort to avoid saying “I refuse to pay for something that is not mandatory, even if my support could be beneficial to everyone”

    I don’t even know why you are trying to make me feel guilty about not paying “enough” (according to you) for the Fediverse.

    I’m very sorry, but there are a lot of other issues I would rather dedicate my money with a higher priority than the Fediverse (besides hosting costs, as we discussed already, I want to keep the instances alive). From the money I dedicate to donations, I usually support some local communities initiatives in my area, as well as some global programs (e.g. Doctors Without Borders, Action Against Hunger).

    Again, if you can find people who want to get into your prepaid subscription service to access Lemmy, and you can use that to pay for your sysadmin time and some development for the software, that’s great.

    But I personally have other priorities. And I don’t even know why are you asking for how I dedicate my money.