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Summary

  • Israel says Wassem Hazem was the head of Hamas in Jenin
  • Hamas confirms the death of three fighters
  • Israeli forces keep up large-scale operation in West Bank
  • Fighting between Israel and Hamas still rages in Gaza Strip
  • cygnus@lemmy.caEnglish
    266·
    2 months ago

    Too bad for Israel that they can’t take out only these Hamas guys instead of flattening the whole fucking region.

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldEnglish
      299·
      2 months ago

      I mean, the IDF can put two rounds in the head of any kid on the street and issue a press release claiming they just bagged Hamas’s Brigadier General. Who is going to argue with them? Al-Jazeera?

      Who was Wassem Hazem? Why was he suspected of being a valid target for assassination? How do we know that’s the guy they actually killed? Shut up. We got him. Mission Accomplished.

      • ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        185·
        2 months ago

        The main weapon that Hamas has against Israel is international opinion. The way Hamas wins the current war is by continuing to operate in heavily populated areas until the civilian death toll from fighting there becomes so large that Israel has to retreat in order to avoid losing US support.

      • cygnus@lemmy.caEnglish
        103·
        2 months ago

        I don’t understand your question. Was my statement unclear?

          • cygnus@lemmy.caEnglish
            114·
            2 months ago

            Is your question about how this lopsided war, with its huge Palestinian civilian casualties and displaced population and destruction of any goodwill Israel had after Oct 7, is worse for Israel than if they had instead surgically taken out Hamas leadership and left civilians alone?

              • cygnus@lemmy.caEnglish
                74·
                2 months ago

                Can you elaborate? I have no idea what you’re asking me here.

                • abff08f4813c@j4vcdedmiokf56h3ho4t62mlku.srv.us
                  31·
                  2 months ago

                  I think you have already answered the question actually.

                  How is it bad for Israel?

                  It is bad for Israel because of the

                  destruction of any goodwill Israel had after Oct 7

                  (And I’d add that Israeli citizens and family members of hostages are very upset and frustrated still at the lack of progress in getting the hostages returned. And I’d add how horrible it was when the IDF killed Israeli citizens who were escaped hostages trying to return home. I think one can hold the hostages and their families in the highest regard and with the deepest sympathies, and still understand that there’s something very wrong here.)

                  It is bad for Israel because of the

                  huge … displaced population

                  Having a huge displaced population along your borders is generally not considered a good thing, after all.

                  • cygnus@lemmy.caEnglish
                    2·
                    2 months ago

                    I know, that’s why I said those things. The person clumsily attempting to have a conversation didn’t understand that, though.

                  • cygnus@lemmy.caEnglish
                    102·
                    2 months ago

                    What a shame. Sounds like I missed out on a scintillating conversation.

              • Count042@lemmy.mlEnglish
                25·
                2 months ago

                Quick question: do you support the soldiers that gang rape prisoners(as captured in leaked video) at the pow torture camp run by Israel?

                Oh, and before you say it, that is as reported by the Israeli news org Haaretz.

                • Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.winOPEnglish
                  44·
                  2 months ago

                  We they officially directed to do so by the Israeli government? Did Israeli authorities prosecute them? How is this related to Israeli support then?

                  • Count042@lemmy.mlEnglish
                    34·
                    2 months ago

                    Would you have been one of the 65% of polled Israeli civilians that support the rights of soldiers to gang rape prisoners?

                    This is related to whether or not you’re a moral person capable of rational discussion or a fascist rape camp supporter.

                    EDIT: you also didn’t answer the question, which would suggest the answer to everyone else reading this. Most people reading your response are going to assume that you do support that, until you actually say you don’t.

                    This bullshit answering a question with a question is an obvious deflection to everyone.

                    Also, are the soldiers who gangraped prisoners in jail, as would be the case in a government on the same continent as moral, or on news shows and game shows talking about how they’re really a good person?