Another SFW community: !guitarporn@sfw.community . Whether you have a large collection or just that one special piece of gear that you love, this is the place for you to show it off.

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    2 months ago

    I am not a fan of that naming scheme, but it definitely predates Reddit. I remember the old Saw films being described as “torture porn”.

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        2 months ago

        Maybe, but it was the marketing industry that beat that dead horse first. They killed that horse back in the 90’s & it was already pretty lumpy by the time Reddit got ahold of it in ‘05.

        Doesn’t make the Reddit use any more palpable, just saying it’s been around for a bit…

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      2 months ago

      that was the beginning of the change, when it was still meant pegoratively and implied the watcher was getting some sort of perverse thrill out of it. later things like ‘earth porn’, ‘food porn’, ‘guitar porn’ are just stupid and rely on the really unpleasant trend of using “porn” to mean anything mildly interesting

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          2 months ago

          The “implied perverse thrill” seems a bit of projection on your part

          You can read the critical reception of the film yourself here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saw_(film)#Critical_response

          A sample of adjectives: “nasty”, “nihilistic”, “mean”, “insinuatingly creepy”, “derivative”, “loathsome”, and, yes, “perverse”

          “visually appealing/stimulating images that have no context and at best provide a simulacrum of interest in the object or activity”

          what a silly self serving definition. “porn” has a particular meaning which you can look up in the OED, Cambridge, Websters etc. Definition 3 is how it was used - with negtive connotation - for “torture porn” and (the example in MW) “the pornography of violence”.

          The extension of that to mudane everyday things (food, cars, guitars) and especially when the material shared typically falls well short of “sensational” is just a lazy habit that reddit picked up (and other online spaces too) that I, and clearly others in this thread, think Lemmy wouldbe better without. etto…

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            2 months ago

            Yeah, it’s a bit self-serving. Thing is, I could not think of other term to convey this idea as succinctly. Maybe “Fetish” would be better, but it would still carry sexual connotations.

            • FourPacketsOfPeanuts@lemmy.world
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              2 months ago

              Why does everything have to be sexualised and sensationalised? That’s encouraged on Reddit, and any other profit driven social media, because they’re bending over backwards to bleed you dry of engagement. It’s thoroughly unpleasant.

              Lemmy has a chance to be something different. BestGuitarPics is what you’re actually curating. Or AwesomeGuitarPics if you want a little something extra. Jamming “Porn” on to everything just to try and stir a sense of interest is just sad.

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                2 months ago

                “Best Guitar Pics” is dull and completely unimaginative. It’s the “Microsoft Approach of Naming Products ™”; which does not allow itself to take any risks and ends up being soulless, corporate, empty. Or to use a more contemporary reference: it’s the type of slop that ChatGPT would produce if someone asked “suggest a name for a community for people to share pictures of guitars”.

                • FourPacketsOfPeanuts@lemmy.world
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                  2 months ago

                  “Best Guitar Pics”

                  merely an example. Be sure to let BestOfLemmy etc know…

                  “dull and completely unimaginative”

                  and your solution is to tack “Porn” on the end? oh dear

                  • rglullis@communick.newsOP
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                    2 months ago

                    You are choosing to ignore the rationale for the name:

                    • visually stimulating pictures
                    • lacking deeper meaning
                    • poor substitute or connection with the actual object/activity

                    “Best”, “Awesome”, “Aww” and any other suggestions that I’ve heard do not convey these ideas. And to me these ideas must be expressed. If you can come up with anything that can succinctly make these points across without resorting to porn/fetish analogies, then I will gladly consider them. But if you just want me to change it because it offends your sensibilities, then I am sorry but I will simply ignore you.