A Palestinian man was found dead in a park in the Belgian city of Antwerp with his hands and feet tied, leaving the cause of his death a mystery amid authorities’ suggestion that it may have been a suicide.

“Suicide.”

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    Famine in Poland? You’re referring to the Warsaw Ghetto famine (that was the Nazis) or the shortages in the early 1980s? The GDR sent a lot of stuff over back then.

    No, I’m referring to the postwar situation of the 1940s in which thousands of Poles were deliberately starved to death by Soviet authorities.

    My point still stands, though: The Soviets were absolutely willing to do worse, it just wasn’t opportune at the moment.

    Yes, that’s kind of the point. The Soviets were opportunistic genocidaires. The Nazis sabotaged their own war effort to engage in more genocide. One. Is. Worse.

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      No, I’m referring to the postwar situation of the 1940s in which thousands of Poles were deliberately starved to death by Soviet authorities.

      So the 1946/47 Winter? Germany also hungered back then, it was an extreme cold and draught double-whammy, but by the life of me I can’t find anything about Poland, and that’s with searching for sources in Polish.

      Yes, that’s kind of the point. The Soviets were opportunistic genocidaires. The Nazis sabotaged their own war effort to engage in more genocide. One. Is. Worse.

      Yes: Being opportunistic is more effective in the long run. Cold-bloodedness doesn’t tend to make things better, on the contrary, as it necessitates habit it’s harder to overcome.

      …and just for the record: If you’d been arguing that the Soviets were worse I’d have challenged you by arguing that the Nazis were worse. That’s my very point. They’re both worse.

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        That’s my very point. They’re both worse.

        That’s not how comparatives work. Two things can’t both be ‘worse’ if they’re the only things being discussed.

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          My very point is that comparisons become impossible at some point. You might be able to say “The Nazis are worse here” or “The Soviets are worse here” but once you try to go “They’re better” you look around and see that nope, that’s just coincidence, nope, that’s still fucking unconscionable, nope, there’s no tiny sliver of goodness behind that that would make “better” a word anyone with an ounce of ethics would use without their stomach churning.

          Thus, neither are better than the other, and both are worse. Because the shit they did is so far off the scale that comparisons break down. It’s like comparing infinities.