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      Thats what i thought but holy shit its so much worse.

      Its not even data that is needed for outlook but like pretty much everything on your pc.

      including your username and password, send in clear text

      I agree with the article’s statement. How the fuck is this legal.

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        Wait what I just thought this was another round of whining and clutching pearls over microsoft stuff being spyware but thats actually fucked.

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      8 months ago

      When I look at my Pi Hole dashboard while my girlfriend’s Mac is booted, I’m surprised by how many requests are blocked, given that apple somehow has the reputation of respecting their user’s privacy.

      And when she boots into Windows 10 MS’s data stealing gets downright creepy.
      I am lucky enough not to have a Windows 11 PC on my network but I think I would see even more denied requests.

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    Unlike proton mail , microsoft offers basic IMAP POP functionality of its desktop app for free, Maybe proton should offer the same “essential” email functionality for free before criticizing Microsoft. there are many ways to monetize a service without rendering the free version legless.

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      there are many ways to monetize a service without rendering the free version legless

      Like Microsofts data collection for targeted advertising?

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    For a few years, I had hope that Microsoft would become a respectable, user-oriented, even FOSS-friendly company, but they finally seem to have settled on AI enshitification as their main business model.

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    No shit. There’s a reason they are killing the nice and simple Windows Mail app; it allows you to sync with your email without Microsoft servers between.

    Also, the biggest issue for me is the UX. I use outlook for my work email and like to separate my work and personal life, so soon I just won’t have an app for my personal email on my PC.

    If anyone knows of a similar windows mail app with good touch support and without such a traditional mouse designed UI, please share it.

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    Yeah no shit, and you do think I have a single goddamn bit of influence over my corporation’s choice of email client??

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      They can leech all the data they want from my employer. I don’t give a fuck. Never use company assets for personal business as an addendum.

      Just be a little more careful with your own stuff, s’all.

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          A lot of healthcare and education institutions use Outlook as well, so I wouldn’t be surprised if mental health or legal uses it too. There may be rules about what kind of client/student/patient information can be sent over email, and often there are healthcare/institution specific variants of the office suites which (are supposed to) meet regulatory requirements

          I think the other comment applies regardless. Do work things on the work device/account and let the workplace handle any other concerns. When it comes time to discuss alternatives, you can make a case for something else

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      8 months ago

      pretty sure when you bring that up to your company, that another company will have access to internal communication, that they will do something against it. It’s a willing data breach.

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        There’s no other company with all the required certification that can replace Microsoft office suite so all corporations are stuck with it and tbh nobody cares.

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          Perhaps nobody in the US or in jobs with non-sensitive data cares about that. In the EU this could backfire hard against Microsoft.