• moonmeow@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    hey everyone a friendly reminder that alternatives exist, and just drop this shit fast and move to better alternatives. In this case firefox.

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      When websites start blocking clients that don’t implement the wei handshake, you’ll be forced to use one that does if you want to visit those sites. Firefox will either adopt it or become a second rate browser.

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            1 year ago

            it will truly be messed up if essential websites block user access because of this

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              Most banking apps don’t work on rooted Android phones. It’s not the same, but I don’t think it’s a stretch to assume that at least these companies would force their customers to use specific software…

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    I’ll keep using Firefox and be extremely vocal about websites that won’t support it. I mean that’s all I can really do.

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      I mean that’s all I can really do.

      Unfortunately when my bank or other critical institution rejects Firefox for failure to use attestation, I can’t even do that. I’ll be forced to use Chrome. Firefox would have to adopt WEI to remain compatible. In that case I can use Firefox, but it would be the same as using Chrome.

      I’d say the monopoly Google has with Chrome is way more threatening than in the early 2000’s with MS and IE. That threat resulted in an anti-trust lawsuit, but not a peep from any government about the destruction Google is doing.

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        I‘m old so i actually remember this but I‘m old so my memory might be shit but wasn‘t the lawsuit about the fact that microsoft shipped IE wirth windows as a default browser and not about it being too dominant?

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        Brave is built on Chromium. So, by default, no they are not safe from this. Without extra effort, Brave will have this feature. I don’t know if its feasible but there’s a chance the Brave devs can remove the code from their distribution, but that’s the best case scenario and just puts them in the same position as Firefox: they get locked out because they refuse to implement the spec.

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          I have to imagine they will strip it because if they don’t, it’ll be dead to all of their users.

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            No brave users don‘t care. Brave proved how untrustworthy they are and in any case their business model is unethical yet they still have a cult like following plus a group of crypto bros that are obsessed with getting digital pennies.

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    It may be the last few years of the free web because of Google. Their goals are clear.

    Please switch to Firefox, another search engine and another email provider…

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      I’ve long been trying to de-googlify myself, but it’s certainly ramped up this year.

      Been trying out Kagi and just set up proton mail account. Not sure what I’ll land on in the end but it’s nice trying out newer services.

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        It’s not too hard. The most important things are web search and email. I still use Google Maps. But I don’t want my private emails and searches at a company who is user hostile and preditory.

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          I quite disagree, it is very hard. Sure, switching search engine takes all of two seconds, and email can be had from many vendors free and commercial.

          But calendaring! A calendar that is at least somewhat integrated with am email client, supports more than one actual calendar, and has real-world capability to share them with others - “if you succeed in this, two me how.”

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            CalDav? Integrated in nextcloud. Or Mailcow. Why does it needs to be integrated with e-mail? Thunderbird is able to add all invitations or reminders into my CalDav Account.

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        Nothing is free. How would they make money as a company to pay employees and pay hosting bills?

        All these big tech companies are free exactly because they are preditory on users.

        Pay for good email like Fastmail or Proton.

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          I understand the sentiment, but email is a necessary part of modern life and not everyone has the luxury of paying for it.

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            A lot of things are necessary parts of modern live and you also have to pay for it, a mobile plan for your smartphone for example.

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    Can someone ELI5 how this could prevent a fork of Chromium from just not playing nice and telling the website “yeah yeah, it’s all untempered *wink wink*” and then still remove/alter stuff as it pleases?

    Edit: ok I think I got it … it’s basically the server that decides if it trusts the judgment of the client or not. Can’t wait to see that cat-and-mouse game going on 🙄