I’ve written some other posts on Wayland recently, and it’s time for another one! Feel free to skip it it you aren’t interested in a discussion of Wayland and platforms. Many may …
I daily drive wayland and it has improved a lot in the past few years, but I can see where that sentiment of it breaking everything comes from.
However, since most of the big DEs, WMs and frameworks (Gnome and GTK, QT and KDE) switched to Wayland by default and many programs support it either through the framework or through it’s own effort, the normal user wouldn’t even know the difference.
(adding to this we got many other quality of life improvements, like PipeWire, and lot of work that went into stability fixes)
That said, the main people complaining about wayland today are those, who have very special and customized setups running on X, mainly using features only available there (e.g., creating virtual screen setups) which are not supported (yet or ever) in wayland.
That said, the main people complaining about wayland today are those, who have very special and customized setups running on X, mainly using features only available there (e.g., creating virtual screen setups) which are not supported (yet or ever) in wayland.
Well, I wouldn’t say that. I, for one, can’t use Wayland because screen sharing doesn’t work in Zoom and others. Since I work fully remotely, this is a deal breaker.
Screen sharing is one of those topics that were addressed in the last few years in wayland, I personally shared my screen through BBB on Firefox successfully multiple times. Admittedly, not all features (like sharing of individual windos or browsertabs) were available (don’t know, if that’s fixe now).
Can’t speak for Zoom, but I don’t see how it should differ in the browser to something like BBB.
As for their proprietary application, the interfaces to capture screen content are there; if they don’t want to use it and therefore enable wayland users to use their system, that’s on them.
Same goes for nVidia: it took them way too long to accept that wayland is a thing and start supporting it in their video drivers.
I daily drive wayland and it has improved a lot in the past few years, but I can see where that sentiment of it breaking everything comes from. However, since most of the big DEs, WMs and frameworks (Gnome and GTK, QT and KDE) switched to Wayland by default and many programs support it either through the framework or through it’s own effort, the normal user wouldn’t even know the difference. (adding to this we got many other quality of life improvements, like PipeWire, and lot of work that went into stability fixes) That said, the main people complaining about wayland today are those, who have very special and customized setups running on X, mainly using features only available there (e.g., creating virtual screen setups) which are not supported (yet or ever) in wayland.
Well, I wouldn’t say that. I, for one, can’t use Wayland because screen sharing doesn’t work in Zoom and others. Since I work fully remotely, this is a deal breaker.
Screen sharing is one of those topics that were addressed in the last few years in wayland, I personally shared my screen through BBB on Firefox successfully multiple times. Admittedly, not all features (like sharing of individual windos or browsertabs) were available (don’t know, if that’s fixe now). Can’t speak for Zoom, but I don’t see how it should differ in the browser to something like BBB. As for their proprietary application, the interfaces to capture screen content are there; if they don’t want to use it and therefore enable wayland users to use their system, that’s on them. Same goes for nVidia: it took them way too long to accept that wayland is a thing and start supporting it in their video drivers.