There’s no realistic alternative to voting for Biden.
It’s either; make sure Trump loses, or watch the USA and the bulwark of democracy it represents around the world be destroyed.
(Edit: sorry for the rant)
I think most of the ‘low information voters’ (this actually means ‘low intelligence’ but people are afraid to say that) who think Trump is ‘as good or better than the other guy’ are utterly deluded. Their basic lack of intelligence and education has shown this to be the case anyway.
There is absolutely no excuse for voting for Trump unless you are utterly fucked in the head, or so cynical that you think you might make some Pugh money to survive once the US government implodes.
What would you call people who won’t vote for Trump but refuse to vote for Biden too because Gaza?
Edit: To be clear I agree with all the replies here
People who are going to get Trump elected.
[…] or watch the USA and the bulwark of democracy it represents around the world be destroyed.
Ok…but I’m watching that occur right now under Biden anyway. Like, dems desperately need to stop moving to the right, the distinction that you’re trying to draw is becoming less and less meaningful with every lesser of two evils elected.
We need a party that allows fighters to lead the way, not fascists and corporate lapdogs. The party politics need to change yesterday, it’s difficult for many voters to see that happening if neoliberalism isn’t kicked to the curb.
The US does not represent democracy. And it is ever more clear it is not a democracy, but rather the illusion of one controlled by oligarchs and private interests. There is merely an illusion of choice.
It is a totalitarian capitalist democratic republic.
This is what I don’t understand about establishment dems playing chicken with our Democracy, their neck is on the line too.
I really don’t understand why they think making a show of being Republican Lite is ever going to start working. If someone wants a fascist they’re just going to vote for a full-on fascist, not a half-fascist.
He already told Hillary to her face he was going to prosecute her and send her to prison. Then when he was in office he backed down immediately.
Because that’s what you do for each other when you’re in the same club
trump has spent his entire life trying to buy his way into the club. But he couldn’t.
He was able to donate enough to Dems to get Bill and Hillary to his wedding.
But you can tell he legitimately thought if he did the “no time to divide the country” in 2020, that he’d get the same treatment.
That’s why he’s going so hard on “this isn’t fair”.
He didn’t actually try to press charges on Hillary for her crimes (yes, they were a minor felony and misdemeanors, but still crimes). So he doesn’t understand why he’s got trials for his crimes (obviously they’re much bigger crimes)
trump thought being a president finally got him into the club, it’s probably the only reason he wanted to be president.
Since it didn’t work, he’s not going to drum up charges on everyone he disagrees with.
Which is why it makes zero sense Biden keeps pissing off his own voters. You’d think he’d be motivated to win when Trump will try to throw him and his whole family in jail.
But Biden won’t stop denying genocide and making republican moves at the border, both of which violate laws and human rights.
He’s got more to lose than anyone this election, and he refuses to act like it for some reason
trumps always wanted to be “in the club” that’s all he’s always wanted.
It why he donated so much to Democrats that Bill and Hillary felt obligated to attend one of his weddings.
He thought not pressing charges would get him “in the club” because the next president always pardons others because “consequences would divide the nation” or some other such bullshit.
He legit thought that would quid pro quo him into not facing any charges too.
If he gets office again, he’s going after everyone who disagrees with him.
Which is why Dems need to either run a better candidate, or get Biden to stop fucking around and start listening to his voters.
It’s too risky to keep using trump as an excuse to shove conservative Dems down America’s throats.
We need to run a good campaign this time, with a good candidate.
He wanted to get in good with the Manhattan elites. He was given a golden opportunity to impress them, and threw it away because he’s a stupid, arrogant, greedy idiot.
Yep, most of what trump has wanted is just to be accepted by “the cool kids”.
It’s just he’s a total jackass, so even though they’d take his money, and the Clinton’s showed up at his wedding…
He’s never getting in the club.
Not sure why everyone downvoted me and upvoted you when we said the same thing though
They are probably downvoting you because you’ve got a silly idea that Biden isn’t listening to his voters.
For some reason, many people on the Left seem to think that we are a massive majority. We aren’t.
Trump got almost half the votes in 2016. He’s still polling well today.
You don’t live in a country that has a strong Left majority.
you’ve got a silly idea that Biden isn’t listening to his voters
You think Dem voters support Israels genocide or codifying Trump’s border policies thru executive actions?
Is this one of those things where you look at a poll of “voters” and see ~60% agree with Biden?
For some reason people don’t always realize ~50% of voters are Republicans and will never vote for any Dem.
What Biden is doing isn’t popular with a majority of the people who might vote for him. But yes, the people who will never vote for him like that he’s conservative. It just doesn’t matter because they’re voting trump.
You don’t live in a country that has a strong Left majority.
Debatable, but irreverent to what Dem voters want. The voters who make up the Dem party have a “strong Left majority” as you put it.
I’m saying Biden and the party should cater to the people they have a chance of voting for.
What lifelong Republican voters and current trump supporters want literally doesn’t matter when talking about how Biden can get votes.
He has no chance of getting their votes.
I hope this makes sense
I hope this makes sense
No, it doesn’t.
Trump and his people are calling for mass arrests in the US and the destruction of Palestine.
In 1968 a lot of voters felt they couldn’t stand having Humphrey as President. They let Nixon win.
You vote for Biden and you can vote for someone else in 2028. You let Trump win and voting might be off the table completely.
Wait…
So you give an example of when the Dems ran a candidate further to the right than their voters want…
Which resulted in the Republican winning…
And you blame voters?
And now, when the Dem party is running a candidate further than the right than Dem voters want…
You’re already blaming the voters?
You still haven’t realized the solution is running candidates that appeal to voters?
Did you forget Bill Clinton and Barack Obama happened in the middle?
You charismatic candidates who ran progressive campaigns that led to decisive wins?
You vote for Biden and you can vote for someone else in 2028
Lol, that’s what they said about 2016, and 2020…
It’s what you’re saying about 2024…
But next year, next year will definitely be different?
Lol, that’s what they said about 2016, and 2020…
So, you forgot about the January 6 coup attempt?
