• 𝓔𝓶𝓶𝓲𝓮@lemm.ee
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    3 months ago

    I understand your frustration but you are misguided and ignorant. Education is truly a blessing to not repeat same mistakes from the past.

    I am sure however that you are in extreme minority and pose zero danger to society. My sympathy remains. One has to believe in something. God, ufos or communism.

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      In a world dominated by capitalist realism I find that an ironic stance.

      Socialism isn’t only implementable as an authoritarian state, but any attempt to implement it will be met with fierce resistance from “liberal” countries whose ruling class is not threatened by fascism but is threatened by socialism.

      You’re fighting for the oppressor.

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          Enjoy it while you can, capitalism is actively destroying our climate and causing never before seen levels of wealth inequality. Fascism is the inevitable next step and is rapidly approaching. It will not perpetuate much longer whether by self-destruction, or hopefully, by replacement so that we can continue to thrive as a species.

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            3 months ago

            That’s doomer speak from too much scrolling. I once too believed these things for a time but the world hasn’t ended, improved even. I am no longer as depressed and regained clarity of mind.
            I hope you too can find peace and see the reason before all the time dwindles out like a sand from between your fingers.

            I am typing it lying on my huge bed, with cat at my side, full fridge, iPhone, iPad, car with full tank in the garage, 100 sqm apartment I own in the comfy part of the city. Steady, mostly passive income. Free healthcare working ok, education.

            Why would I want communism? I would have to be not okay in the head

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              Ignoring climate change and its root causes will surely make it go away.

              Your zen bullshit is costing future generations.

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                You got some point with the climate, we should do more for sure. But seeing communism as some kind of holy grail solution is absurd.

                Problem is no one wants to resign from all the goodies and comforts. We could solve it overnight if only people truly were ready for sacrifices but everyone uses maximum excuses to not do anything.

                Some wait for communism to solve it. Very comfortable position. We all have our scapegoats.

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                  A socialist economy where workers own the businesses means that the people making the decisions will be sensitive to their impact on the average person, rather than multi billionaires building bunkers to survive the collapse.

                  It means people will not vote to pollute their own water supply to make a buck.

                  It’s not a holy grail, but it’s a solution because it makes the economy democratic rather than dictatorial.

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                    Let me tell you what happened here some time ago.
                    After the government seized the means of production to people they gave each worker a share in the company.
                    On that same day the workers sold it or lost it, bought vodka or cigarettes for the few pennies they made. Not much was left in the original hands. Someone bought the majority.

                    The ideal economic system works perfect under perfect conditions. Capitalism works ok under most of conditions.

                    Evolution of economic systems is not a history of choosing the perfect one but elimination of these that failed.

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                    Those people barely can avoid trump reign and majority don’t think climate change is real and you think they will be able to handle managing the collective economy? You are very optimistic for a doomer you know.
                    We barely qualify for representative democracy and you want to make economy into a direct democracy. That’s very cute, no offense.

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              As someone who’s not a doomer, with her Rage fueled Hope, and Hope fueled Rage:

              Deep down, I know you cant believe this status quo can stand for much longer than it has.

              If someone earns a dollar they didnt work for, someone else worked for a dollar they didnt earn.

              As someone who’s transitioned out of economic privilege, I know how hollow all that iPicketFence really is.

              You cant really expect others to aspire to that plastic existence.

              You can’t really believe that endless colonization, that your comfort depending on someone of lower economic class existing, wont eventually result in fascism.

              So that’s why the “Scratch a lib and a fash bleeds” phrase rings true. Thank you for airing out all your laundry for all to screencap, demonstrating just how that when we discuss what neoliberalism pushes, we can see it for thr prefiguration of a right wing authoritarian regime waiting to cannibalize it’s own nation.

              Austerity Kills. Food Not Bombs. Housing is a human right. No Human is Illegal. Threats to the bodily autonomy of any Non-Man or Non-White are a threat for all. These are not utopia or naive, these are the bare basic conditions of humanity that have been stolen from the people, and causes for which local organizing today can tangibly improve lives being lived now AND prefigure a society that we can maybe even, someday have good reason to be proud of. Screw the fear, screw the dread, go build some connections with folks who are also putting in the work for these things, it reinvigorates the soul. (And sure helps reduce time spent with your pocket amulet)

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                3 months ago

                Good luck. You gonna need it

                And yeah I probably have no need to mask anything online. It’s just a habit

                So from now on I will be brutally honest here

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                  No way you even read all that. More proof you’re not here in good faith. Dont be surprised noone wants to engage with your mindtrack even in the most milktoast-mild of leftist community. Byyeeeee

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                    Oh I got more than enough of engagement, whole hoard

                    I don’t even remember what was the original point of it tho. But now I know if I want some cheap laughs I just need to say communism bad on Lemmy and watch the whole flock running to prove otherwise

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              If you have mostly passive income to pay for all that you are actively taking the gains produced by the labour of others that are most likely not as comfortable as you. Are you ok with that, or do you at least get why people get frustrated at that?

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                Life ain’t no Disneyland sweetheart. Some are on the losing side and some are the winners.

                I will win no matter the system. It’s merely a different set of rules to bend and leverage

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                  I get that being on the winner side is convenient. I am too. I just see that constantly winning seems to lead the world into a pretty bad state overall where, suddenly, noone is a winner anymore.

                  And all it would take to not get into the disaster scenario would be some redistribution. Doesn’t even mean you can’t be a winner anymore. Just means you get to win less hard.

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                    I am still not gonna vote for communism and neither socialism. Good luck with that stuff. It’s isolated to niche internet communities for good reasons.

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            Cool but you are even more guilty than me if you just wait for some idealistic, mythical system to solve all problems instead of acting with what is here. Now.

            You were sold some horseshit ma’am/sir

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              Ive got much better things to do and a painful awareness of how much time gets sucked into these apps. As such, I engage on my terms:

              Dont wait or engage too much with bait like the poster im replying to comrades. Organize, be out with your local community and build that dual power. Dont let the threat of state violence or surveillance cow you into policing your own beliefs. Fight for your rights bc you need them, because Only We Keep Us Safe.