The Israeli human rights group B’Tselem has published a major new report documenting how the Israeli prison system has become “a network of torture camps,” where physical, psychological and sexual abuse of Palestinian prisoners is normalized and routine.

The report, titled “Welcome to Hell,” collects the testimony of 55 Palestinians who were detained by Israeli authorities since October 7 and later released, almost all without charges. This comes as a group of U.N. experts condemned the widespread torture of Palestinians and as Israel’s Channel 12 News aired shocking footage of Israeli soldiers sexually abusing a prisoner at the Sde Teiman army base, where thousands of detainees from Gaza are held.

Sarit Michaeli, the international advocacy lead for B’Tselem, says the abuse in Israeli prisons is “systemic, ongoing and state-sanctioned,” reflecting the cruelty and thirst for revenge among a growing number of Israelis. “They would like to have a completely open field in terms of what they can do to Palestinians,” says Michaeli.

You can find the full report of testimonies here

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    That’s a lot of things, bad things, but it’s not Apartheid. Words have meaning. It’s also not current.

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      It’s also not current.

      Here the conclusion of your own source.

      Regardless, discrimination still affects their daily lives both visibly and invisibly.

      Definition of apartheid:

      system of legalized racial segregation that deprives one racial group of political and civil rights.

      I’ve provided sources that prove it. Political rights deprived as well as civil. Laws enabling it.

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        Political rights deprived as well as civil.

        They can, and do, become citizens. The procedure is the same as for everyone else. Are you telling me that black people in South Africa were able to do that.

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          Naturalization remains the primary means of acquiring full citizenship rights, but the process is complex and discourages many. Nowadays, most Zainichi Koreans are descendants of the forced labourers in the 1920s, so they were born and raised in Japan and speak only Japanese, but they are not eligible for citizenship unless one of their parents is Japanese. Furthermore, as it is against the law in Japan to have two nationalities,

          Go on how they do and can become citizens. I don’t know how many braincells I’ve lost talking to you. It’s easier for a Palestinian to get citizenship in Israel than it is for a zainichi Korean. They can’t even be Korean anymore to get citizenship. Dude what the fuck are you talking about here.

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            It’s easier for a Palestinian to get citizenship in Israel

            Hell no. Should Zainichi have an easier path to citizenship? I do think so, here in Germany we have an accelerated procedure for people who were born and went to school here, no matter the parentage. Is it any more involved to get Japanese citizenship as a Zainichi than as a German? Nope.

            Not allowing dual citizenship isn’t anything out of the ordinary either, btw.

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              People born in Germany are given citizenship. Zainichi Koreans are not in Japan. There is no accelerated procedure for zainichi Koreans who went to school. In fact japanese law even makes it harder for Korean schoolchildren.

              One of the continuing contentious issues for Koreans in Japan is education. The Japanese government in 2003 made graduates from most international schools and foreign schools – as well as Japanese schools – eligible for the university entrance examination. This has not been extended to most Korean schools (with the exception of a small number of Mindan-run schools), meaning that Korean students from these schools remain seriously disadvantaged. There also exists other forms of continuing discrimination against Korean schools, with donations to foreign schools being tax-exempt, but not those to Korean schools. Since most Korean schools are thus still not recognized as regular schools, children attending these schools will also risk discrimination in employment. The government of Japan also excludes Korean schools from the high school tuition-waiver programme, which was introduced by the government in April 2010, although the programme covered foreign schools authorized as miscellaneous schools. Many local governments have cancelled financial support for Korean schools as well.

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                People born in Germany are given citizenship.

                Not in general, no.

                If your argument was “Japan should adopt German-style laws and give citizenship to children of permanent residents” then I’d say yes, that’s a good idea. Your argument, however, is “Japan has Apartheid, Zainichi can’t use the same beaches as Japanese, are forced to live in segregated areas, have a different set of laws applied to them”. Because that is what Apartheid means. You’re trivialising the concept with your accusation.

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                  Yeah pretty much, if they genuinely cared about human rights violations they would look into the Apartheid reports by Amnesty, B’TSelem, or HRW with the same earnest as Japan’s human rights violations during WWII and their current discriminatory policies.

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                    The argument is again: people don’t give a shit about any other apartheid countries. It’s only antisemites who use the word.

                    with the same earnest as Japan’s human rights violations during WWII and their current discriminatory policies

                    It’s funny because the other day you tried showing me a map that started in 1945(6 years after WW2 started) portraying some completely bs ethnic cleansing commencing before the Palestinians got 8 countries to invade and attempt to destroy Israel.

                    Then

                    You proceeded to list to me discriminatory practices Israel allegedly did against those people up until today.

                    Alright dude.

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                  My argument is nobody cares about apartheid or even potential apartheid countries Japan is not the only one. They act like there is no problem it’s all normal. You don’t see a single person here going hey yeah Japan should chill out everyone is just going “no it’s not”.

                  What are you talking about “in general, no.”

                  It is how it works since the year 2000. If you are born there yes, you can get citizenship, given your parent live there for 8 years.

                  There are generations of zainichi who have not got citizenship.

                  I’ve shown they have different sets of laws that apply to them. They are prohibited from working various jobs.

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                    They act like there is no problem it’s all normal.

                    I mentioned several things Japan should change. How is that “acting like there’s no problem”?

                    What I’m saying it’s not Apartheid. Because it isn’t. Apartheid is a specific thing with a specific definition.

                    What are you talking about “in general, no.”

                    I mean “in general, no”. If a pregnant couple travels to the US on a tourist visa and gives birth there, the child will be a US citizen. That’s not the case in Germany or for that matter most of the rest of the world. Korea itself doesn’t have Ius soli.

                    It is how it works since the year 2000. If you are born there yes, you can get citizenship, given your parent live there for 8 years.

                    Living here doesn’t suffice, you need permanent residency – though if you’re here for that long, that should generally be the case. And it’s not “you can become a citizen” but “you are a citizen”. If you don’t grow up in Germany with that kind of Ius soli citizenship you’ll have to choose with 21 whether you keep your foreign or German citizenship.

                    That kind of regime is btw what I proposed Japan introduce in my previous comment. You might want to start reading what I write.

                    There are generations of zainichi who have not got citizenship.

                    And Japan should make the procedure easier for them. I have said that already. But that doesn’t mean that they’re treated any differently from any other non-citizen. They in fact do enjoy some rights not afforded to other permanent residents. So, yes, those “different laws” exist, but they’re in the favour of Zainichis.

                    Go and have a look at actual Apartheid regimes. The degree of discrimination, the complete impossibility of leaving second-class citizen status, the lot of it. Noone is going to listen to your demands for better citizenship laws if you keep on pretending Zainichis can’t shop in the same 7/11s that the rest of Japan shops in.