Bottom Line
The only purported evidence for the claim that Khelif is trans comes from an undisclosed test performed by an allegedly corrupt sports governing body that may have shown she has a DSD condition. The IOC has said Khelif meets its requirements for participation, with Adams, the IOC spokesman, specifically clarifying, “This is not a transgender issue.”
Because Khelif is not transgender, claims attempting to make her victory against Carini an issue about transgender rights or “woke” politics are without basis.
I got banned from a lemmy community for saying the same thing. Less even.
What the heck? Why would they do something like that? Banning a person for blatantly lying about a subject they know nothing about in the first place? That’s so weird!
I never said a lie
I know te subject as much as anyone here
The problem is that some subjects are tabu here and they should not even be mentioned, let alone discussed. Its ironic and quite idiotic considering what extreme views you can find on the same lemmy communities.
Yes, you did.
No, you don’t.
Yeah it’s so taboo, look how little discussion is going on here. Although I guess it might seem like that when you ignore all the comments disproving your misinformation.
nope
yes I most certainly do. But you on the other hand are way out of your depth
What are you even taking about? Now you are just pulling stuff out of your dumb ass. Nobody is proving or disproving anything here. Just a lot of hysteria and insults.
Pointless. I will leave you to your warm and cozy bubble where any challenge is met with vitriol and vomit. Bye.
Cool thanks. Have fun continuing not to watch or support women’s combat sports and deciding you get to have terrible opinions about subjects you’re completely uninformed on!
It’s weird. I’m left-wing but am being accused of being right-wing because I believe men should not compete in women’s sports.
Two hundred years ago, a woman was someone’s property. Now, apparently, it’s just a feeling, or something that is defined by a passport rather than chromosomes. Women are losing their rights to men who are taking over every aspect of their sex and it makes me angry.
You’re being down voted because you’re asserting something maliciously as fact that there’s no actual evidence of.
No, instead someone’s gender should be determined by randos on the internet who believe lies spread by corrupt Russian boxing officials. As God intended. /s
Or you should? Wtf are you taking about.
Relax. Not everything you don’t like is a corrupt Russian trying to hurt your feelings.
That’s the whole point. A person’s gender shouldn’t be up to you to decide, for @dexa_scantron@lemmy.world to decide, or for some corrupt boxing organization located in a country known for it’s anti-lgbtq+ stance to decide.
We can only go by the facts in this case. The only fact that matters here is that Imane Khelif says she is a woman. The IBA has produced no facts to the contrary, only unsubstantiated claims, and they are not a trustworthy source.
Even if she does have some chromosomal difference, and we have no idea if that is true, that is not something that would matter in the Olympics, because it’s not against their rules. So, it’s really a moot point anyway.
But I’m not trying to decide it. I never had. I think she should be able to compete. She was competing before, the other competitors were not against it.
What I’m saying is that women sports have this issue because conditions do arise in body development. I’m not saying imame has it (all though all the circumstantial evidence first point to it, but that’s beside the point).
But whenever I mention this and I get attacked. There looks like there is no room for discussion here. It’s either a ban, or people start to rain on with person insults and strawmen. I find it really interesting. Usually in these situations there’s is a lot of room for people to grow. I’m trying to see if anyone will be able to calm down enough first.
You started a tirade against someone without any evidence available yet.
IBA claimed that she was ineligible due to some unspecified test they did. Perhaps they will disclose tomorrow.
Everything points out that this ban was political to protect a Russian boxer who lost to her. Khelif fought for many years she also lost 9 times to other women, but just that one time when she fought to Russian boxer she got disqualified by organization that itself got disqualified for corruption and ties with Kremlin.
Why start with some conspiracy theory? Why are some people so much against talking about this issue. I got banned just bringing it up. Everybody here thinks the best action is to ban all mention of the issue and pretend it doesn’t exist.
Like that she’s not a woman? that conspiracy theory?
Don’t play stupid, you know very well I mean a conspiracy with the Russian boxer.
Because the IBA is a conspiratorial organization. that’s why IOC banned them.
https://apnews.com/article/e0bc25202d484c9ba07ce5d3fbca2412
Yes every boxing organization is. What’s your point?
Then you surely agree that we should be questioning their integrity in this matter, right?
Also consider there have been no other transgender-related controversies around these olympics except for the two initiated by the IBA.
The tests and results are confidential for a reason.
The whole idea of a conspiracy to affect one boxer in the woman’s category doesn’t make sense.
except where IBA is involved… hmm…
TWO boxers. please explain your reasoning, you can’t just assert something like that with nothing to back it up. you’re just being a denialist.
Why can’t you just own up to the fact that you hate this person for no rational reason?
First she was trans and when that didn’t work it was hormones and when that didn’t work it was testosterone and when that didn’t work it was chromosomes and now that this isn’t working I’m genuinely curious what rabbit you’ll pull out of your hat this time.