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  • Virtual Insanity @lemmy.worldEnglish
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    1 year ago

    I do badly want to like these… but I don’t see the point.

    Repairability wise mid range ThinkPad is nearly as good. Only major difference is I think Framework claims they will release schematics… and as someone who actually does component level repairs I’ve seen promises like this work I’ve or twice, but then they stop maintaining their data or pays get hard to get rendering the gesture null.

    Upgrade wise… I switch machines every 4 to 6 years… at which point the chassis has a bit of wear and tear.

    Spec wise I buy what I need and add a little headroom with the ThinkPad.

    Spare parts are good for ThinkPad and Lenovo actually has component replacement guides that no one seems to mention or know about.

    And when I do upgrade I appreciate having a complete spare machine.

    I think it’s also not unreasonable to assume my style of buying and upgrading is not uncommon.

    This leaves the Framework very few hardware advantages and nil price advantages.

    I still think they’re a great idea, but I don’t see any practical benefit over a sensible alternative.

    Genuine question… Have I missed anything?

    • narp@feddit.deEnglish
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      1 year ago

      My opinion:

      • Framework has a good track record and I would give them the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise. (Concerning upgradeability)

      • laptops are getting more and more powerful and I like the idea of treating them similar to a desktop

      • as a ThinkPad user you probably know how popular especially old ThinkPads are, because of the ability to mod them

      • you might buy a new laptop every few years but the point above proves that there will be people interested in a second hand laptop, therefore reducing waste

      • there will always be a market for good quality and customer friendly products and the existence of framework is great for competition (for the end user)

      • they support the open source mentality, even tried to help to bring coreboot to their laptops. Even though that failed they’re keeping an eye on openSIL

      • overall I’m more of Linux instead of Windows, FOSS instead of corporate closed software, Lemmy instead of reddit and framework/system76/… instead of Lenovo/… kind of person. I see it partly as a fight for “freedom” if you so will.