• Pan_Ziemniak@midwest.social
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      6 months ago

      Oof, lemme just tell the living Gazans dont matter bc the same lemmy tankies as ever dont find them useful to their narrative if we help em. 😪

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        That’s nowhere near what I said and you know it.

        Strawmen and baselessly accusing anti-authoritarian pacifists of being tankies won’t convince anyone that waiting 164 days to call for an end to a genocide is in any way acceptable.

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          6 months ago

          Most politicians will play it safe and stick with the most popular opinion for their voter base, or just stay silent.

          Sanders, AOC and the protesters helped to turn the tide, which is the reason some politicians speak out now. Those new voices will continue to change public opinion, force others to speak out and apply more pressure.

          You rather want this not to happen?
          I thought, getting people and politicians to agree that Israel needs to be stopped was the goal?

          And why would it be “too late” while Palestinians are still dying?

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            6 months ago

            Most politicians will play it safe

            Which is still what she’s doing. She’s not suddenly developed principles, it’s just reached the point where she can’t get away with not pretending anymore.

            stick with the most popular opinion for their voter base what the owner donors who keep them in legal bribes prefer, or just stay silent.

            Fixed that for you.

            You rather want this not to happen?

            No, but have you never heard the expression “too little, too late” ? This is the very definition of that.

            And why would it be “too late” while Palestinians are still dying?

            Because tens if not hundreds of thousands have already died as a result of the actions of the Israeli government and the inaction of the United States government. Even more people, mostly children, have reached a point where they’re going to be horribly affected for life if they survive at all.

            It’s too late to avoid the irreparable damage that she and her colleagues already share some of the responsibility for.

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              6 months ago

              “Which is still what she’s doing”

              I know, I was talking about her.

              “it’s just reached the point where she can’t get away with not pretending anymore”

              Exactly, and that’s a good thing.

              “owner donors”

              If true it means that even they think it’s beneficial to change course which would be great.

              “It’s too late”

              Yes, it’s too late to reverse time. But I’m pretty sure the Palestinians that are still suffering at the moment would appreciate help anyways.

              And real “help” is only going to happen if not only the politicians with principles but also the opportunistic ones agree on it.

              Feels like your top priority is to hate on them instead of moving forward on a path that might finally bring a halt to that genocide.

              Maybe you should reconsider what’s really important to those people dying right now, I’m pretty sure they don’t give a fuck about that senator.

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              6 months ago

              Yep, the dead definitely wouldn’t want their loved ones to continue living.