• NOT_RICK@lemmy.world
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      8 months ago

      I don’t really see an issue with this position. Replacing book bans with de facto bans by refusing to stock them could also become a problem. I’ve read Mein Kampf and I’d still gladly slug a Nazi.

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        8 months ago

        Mein kampf is a terribly written book. Maybe it’s a translation issue? Does it read better in German?

        • No it is amazing. It is so amazing to read, that a Turkish origined comedian took it up on him to read it to Germans, to show them just how great it was.

          Resulting in even some hardcore Nazis to end up laughing, because the book is just completely utter horseshit.

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      8 months ago

      You can’t seriously be against all censorship in books, right? Where are your actual boundaries? I don’t think you’d be ok with something obviously evil like a book of cp… Right?

      Edgecases are why it’s hard to be consistent.

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        8 months ago

        That’s illegal and for good reason.

        Yet somehow the US functions with freedom of speech even with some restrictions.

        But we’re not talking about CP are we? We’re taking about how we are still dealing with rightoids censoring books and now the left wants certain ones censored.

        I argued against the right censoring books and I’ll continue to argue the same way, regardless of who the next shitty group trying it is.

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          Yeah, let’s put “Der Giftpilz”, meaning “The poisonous mushroom” - a German children’s book from 1938 - up for sale everywhere.

          Children should learn how Jews are the poisonous mushrooms of humanity because they rape German girls, killed Jesus and doom humanity if we don’t find a solution to the Jewish Question.

          This book can be legally sold in the US.

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            8 months ago

            A conservative could say the same thing with a different book.

            Stop trying to ban books.

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              8 months ago

              They will ban books regardless of whether harmful books are banned.

              Freedom of speech doesn’t extend to incitement of hatred. If it does, your laws don’t protect freedom of speech as much as they protect the freedom to call for, and eventually cause, genocide.

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            It almost as if education and critical thinking about what one is reading is important.

            That book can be read to children in the context of it being wrong. It can be explained to children why it is wrong and that just because they read something in a book doesn’t mean it’s right.

            What’s better, educating people to think critically, or banning things so they don’t have to think at all?

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              8 months ago

              I’m sure this will be the reason anyone purchases this book.

              Besides you don’t expose children to Polio to strengthen their immune system, you give them a weakened version. The beautifully illustrated book with arguments which sound logical to children, tons of non-verbal messaging and countless hateful stereotypes is not how you educate children.

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      8 months ago

      Twitter people pointed out that Mein Kampf is sold there, but it’s a historic book and valuable to read to understand the roots of fascism to fight it.

      • Mein Kampf is a pretty poor source to understand the roots of fascism. People have this idea, that Hitler was some elaborate writer, who laid out a comprehensive and enchanting piece of work, that was then surrounded by mysticism.

        You don’t understand the roots of fascism from books written by fascists. You understand it from looking at fascists in action, both on the side of agitators and those following the agitation. And the roots are pretty simple: Combine fear with hatred and an inferiority complex, mix it with simple solutions and by elevating individuals of the in-group by terrorizing the out-group.