I don’t understand the bluesky hype. If it ever is properly federated, I’ll try it out, but until then it’s just one of these new hip social media sites that appear every few months.
@sexy_peach@koncertejo And that’s the rub, right? #Bluesky is supposed to be #federated but it only federates with itself and it will only federate in the future with entities that use its proprietary protocol (i.e. its vassal states). So, how is this anything but just another walled garden beholden to corporate interests? I do like the idea of nomadic identity, but it doesn’t mean anything until/unless Bluesky starts talking to other services.
No in theory they plan to be federated properly through the AT protocol I believe. It’s not compatible with the fediverse, but that’s not necessary to be federated.
At the moment though they only have one server and that one doesn’t even federate with the AT protocol yet. So at the moment it’s just a twitter clone, without any special features.
I don’t know if I think that they should talk to other services, I think that if they truly built a very user friendly twitter alternative that is spread out on many servers that are connected and independently run, that would be a huge goal. But I don’t at all believe they’ll even manage that.
That’s why I love the fediverse, we have that going already and even more :)
I think the hype is driven by people that just want Twitter without Elon and realized the Fediverse is not that. I know that by saying so I somewhat sound like the people that the article is criticizing, but I think people that want Twitter without Elon are missing a big part of the picture, i.e that Twitter was and is bleeding money fast, so “their” Twitter was going to die one way or the other.
To build a sustainable platform you need to invest in it. People in the Fediverse have done so, but are painfully aware that it is a careful balance and that it can’t work with millions of Twitter users switching over expecting a gratis platform with no strings attached.
And this failure to understand these basic dynamics will probably drive them into the hands of yet another venture capital funded fly-trap and the circle will begin anew.
I don’t understand the bluesky hype. If it ever is properly federated, I’ll try it out, but until then it’s just one of these new hip social media sites that appear every few months.
Jack Dorsey, that’s it
That’s a good argument against Bluesky
@sexy_peach @koncertejo And that’s the rub, right? #Bluesky is supposed to be #federated but it only federates with itself and it will only federate in the future with entities that use its proprietary protocol (i.e. its vassal states). So, how is this anything but just another walled garden beholden to corporate interests? I do like the idea of nomadic identity, but it doesn’t mean anything until/unless Bluesky starts talking to other services.
No in theory they plan to be federated properly through the AT protocol I believe. It’s not compatible with the fediverse, but that’s not necessary to be federated.
At the moment though they only have one server and that one doesn’t even federate with the AT protocol yet. So at the moment it’s just a twitter clone, without any special features.
I don’t know if I think that they should talk to other services, I think that if they truly built a very user friendly twitter alternative that is spread out on many servers that are connected and independently run, that would be a huge goal. But I don’t at all believe they’ll even manage that.
That’s why I love the fediverse, we have that going already and even more :)
I think the hype is driven by people that just want Twitter without Elon and realized the Fediverse is not that. I know that by saying so I somewhat sound like the people that the article is criticizing, but I think people that want Twitter without Elon are missing a big part of the picture, i.e that Twitter was and is bleeding money fast, so “their” Twitter was going to die one way or the other.
To build a sustainable platform you need to invest in it. People in the Fediverse have done so, but are painfully aware that it is a careful balance and that it can’t work with millions of Twitter users switching over expecting a gratis platform with no strings attached.
And this failure to understand these basic dynamics will probably drive them into the hands of yet another venture capital funded fly-trap and the circle will begin anew.
Yes I 100% agree!