Europe may slap retroactive tariffs on Chinese EVs
electrek.co
Europe says it has found evidence that China has been “unfairly” subsidizing its EV exports to Europe. Possible “remedies” include retroactive tariffs.

The European Commission says China hasn’t been playing fair in that its government has been paying subsidies through “direct transfer of funds,” among other actions, reports Reuters – which the EC says tips the balance in China’s favor and leaves European automakers out to dry.

Back in October 2023, Europe launched its formal investigation into the Chinese EV industry, as European companies are struggling to compete with the cheap, high-tech Chinese imports, made by low-cost labor, entering the European Union.

  • crispy_kilt@feddit.deEnglish
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    8 months ago

    Imagine two people being born in the sixties in India and China respectively.

    I will happily imagine. Will you?

    China: 55 million dead.

    India: not.

    Please note that the 55 million estimate is from a CCP party school official, not from a western historian - thus we can safely conclude that the number may well be higher.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Chinese_Famine

    And I say this as someone as far left as left goes. We must not be blind to the crimes that have been committed, and are being committed, by terrible dictatorships that hide behind the ideas of Marx.

    China is a state capitalist dictatorship engaged in genocide as we speak. Whether or not they have the audacity to call themselves socialist, or even communist, does not change their crimes.

    • spacedout@lemmy.mlEnglish
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      8 months ago

      And I say this as someone as far left as left goes.

      This is much like beginning a comment with “I’m not racist, but”, with the inevitable horrible racism that follows. Your comment is such a gross simplification of history and dismissal of context, that it borders on the malign. For instance the number in your source says 15-55 million, not 55 million. The ideological broadside is very apparent. Facts not feelings, to paraphrase a broken clock.

      1. Yes, China had a terrible famine in the 60s, but far left people tend to consider it in context China’s historical famines, as well as the many millions dead to capitalist induced famine.
      2. Leftists tend to consider deaths and consequences of capitalist imperialism when discussing foreign and developing nations.
      3. Today India is listed as a country in “Serious” risk in the Global Hunger Index, while China is of course “Low”.

      These are just three aspects of context, of many, which you could have chosen to inform your comment. In stead it is perpetuating a US-vs-Them cold war, black and white rhetoric, making the West out to be exceptionally good, while China is entirely bad. Smart people smell the lies included in such oversimplification a long way. You run fast and loose with your facts, presenting allegations of Uyghur genocide as fact, while you probably know how the UN will not call it that, after long running and thorough investigations, a lack of evidence, etc. On the other hand, we in Europe are very much facilitating the ongoing genocide in Palestine, of which there is ample coverage.

      • crispy_kilt@feddit.deEnglish
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        8 months ago

        For instance the number in your source says 15-55 million, not 55 million.

        Your statement is incorrect. I will quote for you.

        Death toll in millions: 55

        Researcher: Yu Xiguang (余习广)

        Yu is an independent Chinese historian and a former instructor at the Central Party School of the Chinese Communist Party, estimated that 55 million people died due to the famine. His conclusion was based on two decades of archival research.

        Facts not feelings, to paraphrase a broken clock.

        There is so much irony in this sentence, that if it were edible, could feed the people Mao killed and then some.

        Much of the rest of your response jumps back and forth between ad hominem, whataboutism, non sequitur, false equivalence and condescension to such an extent that it does not warrant a reply.