I’ve seen multiple requests for nsfw lemmy communities like reddit has. I live in Germany, and I think you are required to verify that the users that see porn content are above the age of 18. Does Lemmy has or plan to have a feature for that? Maybe this should be an issue on github?
Pornhub is proposing something that would be enforced on the browser/operating system level, and then the service providers would only need to specify the minimum age for a certain resource. While there are obvious limitations with this approach, it would work much better than the current approaches for distributed services.
That would be an interesting approach, but browsers are easily switched (to a “jailbroken” one) and I wouldn’t trust windows with such information… Linux would be fine, but I guess the linux community would at least be torn on this one (though I might ofc be wrong)
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And what is with instances that federate with an nsfw instance. Its users are not asked for verification. I was just curious if ther will be a system that is doing something to prevent minors from seeing porn
I think they meant verification in the sense of a popup that asks you.
Nope I meant real verification. Pornhub doesn’t require it, because the server and the company are not stated in Germany. Imo all porn site should have real verification instead of the “I am 18 or older” popup, that literally does nothing to prevemt minors from seeing porn.
nanny state regulations shouldn’t be a replacement for simply expecting parents to do their job and ensure their kid doesn’t have unfiltered internet access
I dont know about that one. Following this logic why is it forbidden to sell alcohol and tabacco to minors or why are so many drugs illegal like everywhere, when good parenting prevents the use of these by minors? Of course this comparision is far fetched, but I dont think that the problem is solved by just filtering the internet access of minors.
Alcohol and drug use can lead to impaired actions when driving or otherwise contribute to causing people to harm other people. Same with tobacco and secondhand smoke. If the behavior of an individual drastically increases the likelihood that they will cause harm to others then I see the argument for government prohibition from minors. But I have yet to see a case where someone kills another due to the accused’s individual porn usage If there is sufficient empirical evidence that widespread porn usage is accessible by minors, is used by minors, and has shown a correlation to actual harm determined via experimental or observational meta study on existing cases, then I will be for id backed prohibition of pornography
But the prohibition of alcohol and tabacco from kids have nothing to do with saving other people from the effect these kids under the unfluence could have. The age limit is there to save kids from getting used to these substances in their early developement, so they don’t become addicted to them. Or am I missing something?
Wtf I don’t want my personal ID in a database
This is what I see when I access pornhub from my home in Louisiana without a VPN.
What the actual fuck. It’s just people having sex, for gods sake.
That is not necessary for age verification. You just have to go through a working verification process and then you just get the checkmark in the database. most sites that really verify your age use credit cards for that, which are of course sub par, because children can just take the cards from their parents, but it is better than nothing
And this process does not necessarily have to use ypu personal ID
Never heard of something like that. Do you have an example of a website which dies that?
No sadly I don’t. I guess for most plattforms its just so much easier to not host the server in Germany/EU…
I guess thats a problem specifically for nsfw instances in Germany then.
Maybe some other countries included, but yes propably. But imo it would be beneficial for everyone, but I get that people disagree with that
According to this wikipedia article it is mandated for pornography in Germany and the UK. Interestingly enough some alcohol companies in the US also try to verify their users age to ship them alcohol… So yeah a pretty isolated problem I guess
TL;DR Most people are against a age verification where you would input your personal ID or credit card. Adding a popup would be nice though (if it doesn’t already exist)
Thinking about all the included responsibilities, legislation, etc. gives me headache so I will not bother setting up a NSFW instance, from which thought the question originated… Thats propably why there isn’t a good one right now
