i aggre with you if you’re talkin about mass capitalism version of veganism, but the original activist movement of veganism, which is more direct and utopic, is in fact against vehicles itself, cos the production of everything involved causes harm to animals environment.
Yeah, these days, many people become vegan to combat climate change and are opposed to fossil fuels even before that…
Its almost entirely made from plants
And like, even if it was dinosaurs, Dirt is also (partially) made from decayed animals. And, oversimplifying, that dirt becomes plants.
And that’s all fine for vegans, because it doesn’t involve exploitation of animals. Like, if you needed to raise and kill animals to use their corpses to grow plants, that’d be animal exploitation.
Good thing yeast is technically not an animal.
Fungi is closer related to animals than plants.
So in your mind that makes fungi capable of feeling just like animals?
Old news for me. Whats your argument here?
there’s no veganism under capitalism
“nO eThIcAl cOnSuMpTiOn UnDeR cApItAlIsM”
This is quite hard to read
Probably because its a garbage take
c/whoosh
you are most definitely exploiting animals in the scenario you described. do you think i need to build a water table in order to exploit it for a well?
Screw it, eating plants is animal abuse. Just photosynthesize
i didn’t say it’s abuse. i said it’s exploitation. everyone opposes abuse. exploitation is not inherently abusive.
You are kidding yourself if you think what we do with animals is anything but abusive.
food, protection from predators, protection from the elemnts, and veterinary care is not abusive. i would describe it as “symbiotic”.
You think any animal would choose this “safety” for beeing killed after a max of 1/10 of their lifespan? I wont even start about the living conditions most animals are in. For sea animals also nothing of your arguments holds true and we kill a fuckton of those.
You know its one thing to contribute to suffering because change is hard. Pretending this is something symbiotic is ridicoulus though.
You think any animal would choose this “safety” for beeing killed after a max of 1/10 of their lifespan?
i don’t know of any animal killed at 1/10 of their lifespan.
Pretending this is something symbiotic is ridicoulus though.
this is literally an appeal to ridicule, not a refutation.
You think any animal would choose this “safety” for beeing killed after a max of 1/10 of their lifespan?
i have yet to find proof that nonhuman animals understand personal mortality, so they wouldn’t even be able to understand the choice you are presenting.
Petrol isn’t made of dinos it’s made of is plankton
“bio diesel” contains animal fat, 1 million tons each year in the EU alone.
