I’ve been doing a bit of searching for theories on the origin of baryon matter (including antimatter of course) and some seem to hint at quantum particles spawning from the fabric of space (but doesn’t seem to theorize on how this happened) but not many focus on hypothesizing how all forms of baryon matter ether: was the default starting point (that is empty space wasn’t the default origin, energy was) or that the fabric of space is the origin of baryon matter (something like: space has the blue print and energy supplies the material).

Thanks for any insight/links that focus on this question

  • PinkOwls@feddit.deEnglish
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    1 year ago

    I wish that science channels would stop using the term “fabric of space” because the term is meaningless (or not well defined). What is probably meant when “fabric of space” is mentioned, is the abstract geometrical concept of manifold: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manifold

    So what we are talking about are coordinates and distances between those coordinates. And I’d consider it unlikely that coordinates and their relations could spawn matter by themselves.

    • Jeredin@lemm.eeOPEnglish
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      1 year ago

      This link was amazing. Thank you so much and it seems I need to dive deeper into quantum mechanics.

      This was honestly the answer I was after. Have you read about Black Hole cosmology? I’m not certain how probable it is to be true, but it’s extremely interesting and along with Roger Penrose’s own eon theory, it seems likely that the universe is cyclical.

      I haven’t read Roger Penrose’s theory yet, but a lot of my intuition is pointing to something like a cyclic big bang (akin to a universe of energy being released from a back hole-like origin) before eventually evolving into a big crush and repeating the cycle. I need to read Roger Penrose’s theory to compare it to my intuition. 

      But quantum mechanics seem to have the answers on how antimatter/baryon matter is formed through the relationship of fields and quanta energy vibrations.

      Thanks again for the link.

        • Jeredin@lemm.eeOPEnglish
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          1 year ago

          I though I saw your avatar before and we have indeed crossed paths before and seem to be on the same cosmological discovery. You seem very pragmatic in your comments. How has your research on a non-big bang origin developing? Seems I have some catching up to do on Penrose - what are your initial thoughts?

          • A_A@lemmy.caEnglish
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            1 year ago

            Yes we had a nice exchange five or six days ago in your post :
            Beyond the Darkness - Dark Matter: A Baseless Hypothesis?
            I am not a physicist and I don’t work in this field. I just read since many years and I made my mind about what was going to be successful and what was not.

            My best prediction so far was that JWST was going to see the same type of galaxies very far away as those in the local universe. (at least partially verified) I made that same prediction when Hubble telescope was put into orbit. Back then physicist started doubting their theories.

            I was most impressed by a single fact of physics ...

            …that all energy in ordinary matter is equal to the negative potential gravitational energy of that matter. Because of this I am scanning all I read for clues for a mechanism where matter could be created from gravitational field …something like Hawking radiation. For the same reason I am also looking for evidence that the universe could stand for a much longer time since the CMB. This would be the case for a universe that would be exponentially expanding. Suppose the accelerating rate of expansion double each 10 billion years or so. Then, if you go in the past every 10 billion years the rate of expansion is smaller and smaller exponentially decreasing and the universe is extremely old.

            I have so many more ideas but I don’t want to make a wall of text.

            • Jeredin@lemm.eeOPEnglish
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              1 year ago

              Observably and experimentally, it’s so hard to test powerful gravity fields. But theoretically, if we could confine and increase a portion of matter into a far more dense state, we should be able to create increased gravity - I think that’s possible, but it would take insane energy and you’d have to control it to a point that it doesn’t turn into a giant explosion; seems very probable and should be conducted in space…just to be safe.

              But, is your thinking that if we have a net zero energy universe, it should not have a big bang, or just that a net zero may have originated differently from a big bang? I’m just curious.

              • A_A@lemmy.caEnglish
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                1 year ago

                if we find a mechanism that continually creates matter in the universe we don’t need a big bang. Creation of matter and gravity fields, (net zero) could somehow increase the expansion of the universe. 3d interference pattern of gravitational waves would create rogue waves at specific points in SpaceTime that would create matter and the CMB.
                Oops ! I just defined a new cosmological model 😄 !