‘Andrew Tate is a symptom, not the problem’: why young men are turning against feminism
www.theguardian.com
Teachers describe a deterioration in behaviour and attitudes that has proved to be fertile terrain for misogynistic influencers

Despite the triggering headline, this is a pretty good article that talks about how younger men are falling for this horseshit

  • spaduf@slrpnk.netM
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    9 months ago

    We absolutely need to be doing more on this front and I think the best solution is actually pretty simple: men should read feminist literature (or discourse) that has their interests in mind. If you take nearly any one of these people and make them read bell hooks (this is the hard part), it will almost certainly change their lives for the better. What’s more, a lot of that just comes down to having their pain validated and it’s relation to patriarchy exposed.

    • Track_Shovel@slrpnk.netOPEnglish
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      9 months ago

      At the risk of oversimplifying, I don’t think men need to read feminist literature. Nothing wrong if you do, but I think men in general need to stop smelling their own farts and take a long, hard, and uncomfortable look in the mirror.

      Figure out who exactly it is you want to be. What traits does this version of yourself have? Chances are, ‘intolerant shit sack’ aren’t the words we want to describe ourselves with. Then we start to ask if we are said shit sack, and if so, how do we stop from being one.

      The point I am trying to make is that we far too often focus on small things, and lose sight of the big picture.

      • gapbetweenus@feddit.de
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        9 months ago

        Your point is basically: why don’t all assholes just stop being assholes. That is not how any of this works.

        • Track_Shovel@slrpnk.netOPEnglish
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          9 months ago

          No, my point is to stop being an asshole, we need to want to change, and the way we do that is through self-reflection and identifying where we need to change.

          If our vision of who we want to be and who we actually are don’t align we need to start self improvement and punching items off the list we’ve created.

          • gapbetweenus@feddit.de
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            9 months ago

            No, my point is to stop being an asshole,

            That is what I’m saying - and that is not how it works. We need first to help people to not become assholes in the first place and second help people change. Why? If nothing else for pure selfish reason.

            • Track_Shovel@slrpnk.netOPEnglish
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              9 months ago

              Thanks for the clarification; I actually missed what you meant, and I agree with you

              I don’t know how we stop them in the first place though. You have to get everyone to buy into a concerted approach to make a systemic change.

              I’m legit curious if you’ve got ideas on how to get there. How do you convince 1B dudes to not listen to Tate’s messaging, for instance.

              • gapbetweenus@feddit.de
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                9 months ago

                You need to create media tailored to them but with progressive message. There is no one size fits them all approach and I would say no receipy. In general it has to be an artist who understands their life experience rather well and has the skills to make content they will enjoy. People like Contrapoints and Hasan definitely have some success with reaching that audience.