I mean like even if someone is for example criminal or scumbag they are still human and hoping for someone to die or make jokes of someone’s loss of life isn’t right. Or does someone think it is justified? I think it’s morally wrong.

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    I think it’s hard to just handwave and say “meme bad”. These are some of the people I’ve come across with it:

    First the easy one, edgelords online want to rile people up. I personally don’t care, engaging them at all is just encouraging them. There are worse things to make memes about IMO, this is not one of them to get riled up over.

    Second, people who genuinely don’t care about this and think it’s ridiculous the media covered it so much. I’m half in this boat, there are way more newsworthy things to cover than 5 people drowning in a custom made sub on a mission that they literally signed away their life to do. However,

    Third, people who see this as a tragedy. The other half of me is here, at least one of the people genuinely wanted to see the Titanic. Which, maybe it’s hard for us to understand the price tag, but if you had a dream of seeing it since you were a child, wanted nothing more than to see it, and were offered it, would you? And if not, if someone offered you a trip to see what you wanted to more than anything else in the world, would you want to? Go step on the moon? It’s like if someone offered you the ability to literally go to a fictional place, then that 250k doesn’t seem so much, if that was your once in a lifetime must do once and exactly once, if you saved up for 20 years. Those are the people I mourn.

    Fourth, and I think this is a small group, people who are legit sad but treat humor as a coping mechanism. I think a lot of people forget about them, they aren’t trying to make situations like this into something controversial, they just cope differently, and that’s okay.

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      Fifth, people who are sad for the pilot, think the CEO got what was coming to him, and think the loss of three ultra wealthy people isn’t actually a loss.

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        Rich people fucked with the environment and the environment got their revenge

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    The way I see it, making jokes about this kind of thing is a fundamentally human reaction. People often react to grim scenarios with humor, consider all the jokes about things like wars that exist- and being trapped in a failing submarine is a pretty grim thought that people might seek to distract themselves from by twisting it into humor. I don’t think joking about an event like this that resulted in deaths is the same thing as wishing for people to die, they are, after all, already dead, and uncomfortable as the thought is, the dead are not as far as we can probably know capable of taking offense to anything. There is no possible harm that jokes or anything else can do to them anymore.

    Obviously I would consider it pretty rude to joke about it around someone who knew one of the deceased, since you can at least cause emotional distress to those people, but I don’t see a problem with joking about it on the general internet.

    Another thing to consider is that some of the jokes have been mocking the quality of the sub itself, rather than the people on board (save for the ceo I guess). If you cheap out on stuff and that decision kills people, I think it’s perfectly reasonable for people to mock you over it.

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      We’re joking about deaths all the time. The Titanic itself has been used for jokes for decades.

      I think the main point of all the jokes in this case is the absurdity of the situation. Like, a bunch of ultimately inconsequential people die in admittedly somewhat weird circumstances and the media seems to go haywire. Nobody should care about this, since it’s not more than a weird story for anyone not related to the people. Joking about that is just a way to put the situation into its place, so to speak.

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        Honestly I do get why it got so much media attention. Media companies exist to make money, to do that they need to get people’s attention. Submarines, especially civilian ones that go deep like this, are rare and unusual things, so this story, while of little practical consequence to most, is very good at getting people’s interest.

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          And I hate them for that.

          “News” like that is absolutely worthless information, it’s just used as a tool to place ads. And for some reason people still click on it? I don’t get it. Maybe humans weren’t a good idea.

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    I dunno. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes right? Don’t get me wrong, it’s still tragic what happened to those people, but I don’t have much sympathy.

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      Yeah I get your point and get it that people don’t maybe have sympathy for them, bur making fun of anyone’s dead crosses the line, at least for me.

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        You’re making fun of dead people too. Ever made a joke about the Titanic? Or some war related joke? Or AIDS? COVID?

        Are these lives somehow less important, because they died decades ago? Or because they were anonymous?

        The reality is, that each day thousands of people die. And we don’t care. And that’s okay to a certain degree. Why are these randos above being joked about?