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    • shrugal@lemm.ee
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      1 year ago

      Maybe not by mass murdering innocent civilians?

      Defending yourself and annihilating an entire people are two different things.

      • hh93@lemm.ee
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        1 year ago

        They told them to evacuate and Hamas told them to stay put which many did.

        So what’s your suggestion?

        Going in there with the army on the ground? That will probably result in even more casualties.

        Hamas is just evil with how they planned their bases around hospitals, churches or civilian buildings because they know that it’s impossible to target them without having civilian casualties. That’s the whole point.

        So Israel should just ignore that Hamas specifically targeted schools and civilians for their attack and not do anything? Seriously what’s your suggestion besides staying in your childish black and white thinking of optimal solutions.

        Civilian casualties are absolutely horrible but imho those are 100% Hamas fault for using them as meat shields and creating the necessity for a response by what they did to those victims of their attack.

        I know Palestine people don’t really have a choice since there were no elections in a long time so they are the biggest victims of this but imho putting the blame on Israel is just making it far too easy.

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          1 year ago

          Ofc I don’t have a solution, it would be ridiculous to claim that I did. But that doesn’t change the fact that genocide is not a solution either. It’s not like anything goes if no one has a perfect idea, and mass murdering civilians is pretty much the last thing on the list. It’s the one thing that should be avoided at all costs imo.

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            1 year ago

            This does sound like the only option you give to Israel is to be demolished. Since you seem to agree no military action can be used against terrorist groups since it will always result in people dieing, the only other option is for Israel to leave. (Where to, btw?)

            • shrugal@lemm.ee
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              1 year ago

              Israel is not leaving or being demolished, what are you talking about?!

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                1 year ago

                The majority of Palestinians, Hamas and other groups in Palestine are against a two-state-solution. Their goal is to have Israel gone. While the international community can likely pressure Israel into stopping to attack Gaza, how do you suggest they stop the terrorist attacks on Israel from Gaza?

                • shrugal@lemm.ee
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                  1 year ago

                  I know, that doesn’t mean Israel is going away. They are the more powerful of the two by a big margin and they have very strong international support, they will be just fine. Imo it is their job to prevent as many attacks as possible, endure the rest and keep working towards a peaceful solution. I know this is hard, but Israel is easily strong enough to do that, and the alternative is infinitely worse.

        • anteaters@feddit.de
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          1 year ago

          no answers, only downvotes lol

          Users don’t want to openly admit they want Israel to just die and disappear.

  • badbytes@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    How quickly we forget history. You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself come a villain.

    • TokenBoomer@lemmy.worldOP
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      1 year ago

      I had a similar thought recently. Germans were a victim of WW1. Then became aggressors and the Jews were victims in WW2. Now Israel is the aggressor and Palestinians are the victims. Just a thought.