• frostbiker@lemmy.ca
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    1 year ago

    We should disincentivize antisocial behavior rather than ban specific technologies. If rental e-scooters left in the middle of the sidewalk are a problem, require rental companies to provide parking where the e-scooter must be docked at the end of the journey, for example.

    As long as e-scooters are primarily replacing car trips, they are a net benefit to society. Let’s iron out the wrinkles instead of an outright ban.

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      1 year ago

      It is not the scooter company who decides/limit where scooters need to be parked, it’s the city.

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        1 year ago

        …which is fine. We can’t encourage antisocial behavior, and leaving private stuff for free in the middle of the street is antisocial behavior. Free on-street parking for cars is just as bad for everyone, but people have grown accustomed to it and get bothered by e-scooters even though they take a small fraction of the space of a parked car.

        • tryptaminev 🇵🇸 🇺🇦 🇪🇺@feddit.de
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          1 year ago

          i fully agree with the parking of cars issue. But for that at least exist systems to reprimand people parking outside of the alloted spots and many cities have parking spots only designated for people actually living there.

          For scooters we would need a default fine, of say 20€ per scooter that is not in the correct spot or is parked in a way to hinder other people. The fee would need to be deducted directly from the company, irrespectuve of whether they pass it on.

          But that kinda brings us to the point that the whole business model is bullshit, as it can only be profitable with internalizing public goods and externalizing the costs of manageing the dipshits that are misusing them, endangering the safety of other people.

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    1 year ago

    A potentially good concept that has been ruined by corporate greed and a few bad apples in our society. I hope more cities ban them, because other rules and laws don’t seem to be effective in reducing the problems.

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    1 year ago

    I really like these scooters and bicycles when visiting a city - I do not need to bring my own stuff to the city and I can pick up whatever makes more sense. No more daily bike rentals for a way too high price which I need to return to a specific location at a specific time.

    Tho, this stuff also attracts a lot of, for a lack of better word, dipshits, who will just throw these things in the middle of the walkway and call it a day. With this not getting better (either because the authorities and providers aren’t doing a good job or because the people even do not care about fines), this will happen in a lot of bigger cities. As people can rightfully not be expected to deal with this shit.