• Linkerbaan@lemmy.world
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    Ah yes the universe came from nothing and time started by itself. Don’t question it people or this man sends you to jail.

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      You clearly misunderstand what it is to be an atheist. The whole point is to question it. As new evidence (yes, it’s based on evidence) surfaces, we change our “beliefs” accordingly.

      Atheism is not belief in the big bang, atheism is belief in whatever scientific theory is currently best supported by evidence.

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        Atheism means that you say you are 100% certain there is no god. A-Theism. It’s the word.

        The problem is that there is still no clear evidence for the origins for time and the universe. You cannot start claiming god doesn’t exist without having clear evidence for it

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          It’s scientifically close to impossible to prove the non-existence of something. Even green elephants.

          As for time and space… I don’t see the slightest evidence of “god did it”. For me, the chance of finding a green Elephant seems way higher. Because it seems at least possible.

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            Green elephants are not a requirement for our existence.

            The beginning of space and time are.

            For that something outside of space-time must exist that created space-time.

            Unless you are denying that we exist I am asking you to present another possible way that our universe has been created. Because according to thermodynamics energy cannot be created or destroyed.

            Yet our universe does seem to contain energy so where did the energy come from? If you say energy can come out of nothing you’re disagreeing with everything we know about physics.

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              I already disagree with the term “created” here.

              In your world, what brought the “something” outside of space time into existence?

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          Well if you insist on pedantry, “atheism” doesn’t mean a belief that gods don’t exist, it’s a lack of belief in gods. Think “asexual”: it’s not an aversion to sex, just a lack of sex drive. You are describing antitheism, and many self-described atheists are actually antitheists.

          You cannot start claiming god doesn’t exist without having clear evidence for it

          Incorrect, you are the one with the spectacular claim and the burden of proof lies on you. Prove that gods exist.

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            Agnoticism is the word you are looking for. or “being agnostic”.

            agnostic

            A person who holds the view that any ultimate reality (such as God) is unknown and probably unknowable

            This entire comment chain is focused on banning religion and being 100% certain that god doesn’t exist.

            If you want to ban religion and claim god doesn’t exist then the burden of evidence to disprove god lies with you. But you can start by creating something from nothing or reversing time.

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              Everybody (except some religious people) are agnostic about most things. That’s why phenomema like gravity or electromagnetism are explained by “theories”. God isn’t even a theory in that sense.