• Snot Flickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    20 days ago

    If you want a super secure platform for private communication use Matrix for fucks sake, this is a media aggregator and social network.

    Use the appropriate tools for the appropriate use-cases.

    Everything on Mastodon gets publicly posted. Like, what even is this?

    Security and accessibility are always at odds with each other.

    You don’t increase security and safety and also increase accessibility. No, by increasing security, you have decreased accessibility.

    Security and accessibility are a balance. If it’s easily accessible, it’s not secure, if it’s secure, it’s not easily accessible.

  • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
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    21 days ago

    I say DON’T fork it. Heres the thing nobody in communities wants to come to grips with…security is not the way to grow a very new platform. “Normie” users will not give one shit if you are super secured with 87 point encrypted authentication. Super secure? Don’t mean shit.

    You know what normie users DO care about? Marketing. They want one concise marketing vision. They want one baseball brand. One football brand. One basketball brand. One twitter. One facebook. One instagram.

    Now. There are times that those dominant platforms can be disrupted. If oh…I don’t know…some dipshit decided to spend 44 BILLION dollars and spend the next 2 years changing it from the dominant name in microblogging, to a right wing facist supporting echochamber where differing ideas are stiffled, blocked, and shut down.

    That would create the need for a secondary dominant microblogging platform that allows for freedom of ideas to be posted and not deleted due to political stance.

    Enter Mastadon. It fills that void nicely. It’s still small as the majority of the userbase of twitter has no idea Mastodon exists. However it’s undeniable they are losing massive numbers of users. Not because they don’t like the twitter concept, but because they don’t like what it’s become.

    With more marketing, mastodon COULD be the new dominant twitter, thus rendering that 44Billion dollar purchase even MORE stupid than it already is, if 90% of their userbase leaves.

    But where you’ll lose them is if they have to make a choice. Mastodon 1 and Mastodon 2??? Well twitter was just twitter…this must not be twitter.

    And just like that, you’ve confused and lost the new user. Forget the fediverse. Forget instances. Forget security. Forget federation. The normie user doesn’t know and doesn’t care about ANY of that. Instead just say “its one mastodon. It’s like twitter without facism”

    Boom! User influx. This is already happening in spite of lack of marketing and the fediverse existing. Thats how badly people want a twitter clone. If someone else makes another non-fediverse clone, with no facism, and big money marketing, mastodon won’t grow to its full potential.

    But for gods sakes! Don’t shoot yourself in the foot to spite yourself.

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      They want one baseball brand. One football brand. One basketball brand. One twitter. One facebook. One instagram.

      Why’s everything need to be so complicated, anyway? Can’t we just have on sportsballgame and one twitgramface?

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        20 days ago

        Ironically, the thing that would allow people to use one “twitgramface” account across all the various platforms is federation. But the only way I can imagine it being seamless enough for normies is native browser integration for ActivityPub, perhaps with a new URL scheme like apub://.... Basically, save a Fediverse account in your browser, and when you open a foreign-instance link someone sends you, you’ll see a prompt:


        How do you want to open this link (apub:)?

        You can browse this content via your instance and interact with it with one of your saved Fediverse accounts, or choose an app you have installed:

        @yourusernamehere@lemmy.one    ︿
        @example@fedia.io
        @user123@mastodon.social
        Voyager (vger.app Web App)
        Tootle (Local App)

        ☐ Remember my choice for feddit.nl
        ☐ Remember my choice across all instances

        Accept Reject

        Why am I seeing this?    ︿

        This content is on feddit.nl, which is an ActivityPub instance that 3 of your saved Fediverse accounts federate with. To use your account, open this link via your instance, or select Decline to use feddit.nl’s default web interface.


        So far, only browser extensions can do this, and not very well at that. Of course, all ActivityPub instances and clients would need to adopt this URL scheme whenever a link is shared between users, and the downside is that Reddit, Instagram, Twitter etc. will never recognize apub: links. Do you think something like this can ever happen?