• Nobsi@feddit.de
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      Duh, Yes things have to be built. A Windmill is built in a few weeks by way less people and has no risk of exploding into a huge cloud of death.

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        A dam has a higher probability of exploding than a Nuclear Reactor. A WIND TURBINE has a higher probability of exploding than a Nuclear Reactor.

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          I havent heard of a Wind Turbine causing Fukushima. I think it was Nuclear.
          What was the other one… Chernobyl Wind and Solar Farm?

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            Wow two whole accidents in a hundred years? One of them didn’t hurt a single person? The other only killed 30 people? Crazy! That’s SO dangerous?

            What…? Coal mining killed a hundred thousand people in the last century? In the US alone? Wind turbines kill a few dozen a year in just the UK alone?

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              Aren’t you forgetting something?
              Liquidators also died way after the explosion from having to clean up all the rubble.
              You can still not live in the area and will probably not be able to in many lifetimes.

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                Oh man one whole accident from obvious negligence which is easily resolved by the absolute most basic of regulation. Are you implying we’re as bad as the USSR when it comes to basic safety? There have been hundreds of thousands of reactors going perfectly fine since then. Modern reactors can literally not fail in the same way that caused Chernobyl.

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                  here have been hundreds of thousands of reactors going perfectly fine since then

                  i didnt know that ~440 with 60 being constructed is equal to hundreds of thousands.
                  And i also don’t understand why an incident such as chernobyl or fukushima is just “not a problem” at all to you.

                  It’s also not been one…
                  You’re forgetting Kyshtym,Windscale,Three Mile Island,Church Rock and again, Fukushima.

                  And those were just the bad incidents.

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                    I meant to type “or” not “of.”

                    bad incidents

                    Kyshtym was not a nuclear reactor and was also in the USSR.

                    Windscale had nobody be injured or die in the moment, but POSSIBLY a hundred due to long term radiation, though this is disputed.

                    Three Mile Island had zero injuries and zero deaths. The issues it had were entirely due to badly designed control panels and multiple human errors in succession, which has been addressed. Every single one of its safety systems worked perfectly as designed, but one stupid dude did the wrong things at the wrong times and fucked it up. Even then, again, it was an incredibly benign accident.

                    Church Rock isn’t even a nuclear reactor.

                    Fukushima, again, was quite benign. Nobody died and (iirc) nobody was injured. Its safety systems worked exactly as designed and the only issue was bad placement and not being built to survive the possible tsunamis that it may face, which is easily resolved through the most basic of regulation.

                    Yeah, there’s some cleanup in these, but in everything but Chernobyl the surrounding area is perfectly fine. If these are your “bad incidents” then I really wonder what you think of the thousands of people that are actively dying per year putting up and maintaining windmills.

                    Time and time again nuclear proves to be the safest form of energy production on every single metric.

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        Obviously building one wind turbine is less disruptive, but you need hundreds to get the same output, and they only work when it’s windy.

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          It’s always windy. We live on a spinning planet.
          Solar needs sun. Nuclear needs water to cool. Hydro needs water.
          If you combine solar and wind you can replace many nuclear plants by just using the space we are already using.