Hundreds of protesters stormed the Swedish embassy in Baghdad in the early hours of Thursday morning and set it on fire, a source familiar with the matter and a Reuters witness said, in a protest against the expected burning of a Koran in Sweden.

  • karbotect@feddit.de
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    edit-2
    1 year ago

    I’m not saying that this demonstration should be banned, because people in Iraq got aggressive.

    I’m saying that this demonstration should be banned, because this demonstration goes against modern Swedish values and laws. Being openly hostile towards certain religious minorities and ethnicities is not something Swedish authorities should protect.

    Burning a Quran is a message of hate towards Muslims, that’s simply it.

    • bossito@lemmy.worldOP
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      1 year ago

      Sorry, but if we’re going to be that strict about hate speech then we also must ban the quran itself, where racial violence, ethnic hate and slavery are promoted and justified. If we allow the quran we must allow people to hate the quran as well.

      • karbotect@feddit.de
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        1 year ago

        Swedish law guarantees freedom of religion. You can criticise the Quran, you can hate it, you can promote alternative humanist interpretations of the Quran, but the Quran itself will always be the symbolic representation of Muslims. This is simply reality.

        Every ancient religious text has passages that did not age well, that is still not a reason to spread hate tho.

        • bossito@lemmy.worldOP
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          1 year ago

          I know enough about the religious texts to know that’s a huge simplification. And while the old testament does have horrible things in it, the quran goes far beyond. This is something we should be able to discuss freely.

          • karbotect@feddit.de
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            0
            ·
            1 year ago

            Arguing which religious scripture is worse is a useless excercise imo.

            I don’t argue against criticism of the Quran. Even in Iraq, there are many people, that publicly do this.

            Burning the Quran is not a critique and is not an invitation of a civil discussion. It is a declaration of extreme hate. Assuming anything different is just being overly charitable to a bunch of literal neo-Nazis.

            • bossito@lemmy.worldOP
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              0
              ·
              1 year ago

              And assuming that the sensitivies of people burning embassies should be accounted for is being overly charitable to a bunch of literal religious-nazis. These are 2 very different degrees of violence. It’s not the same burning a book and burning an embassy (luckily no one died, but not that the mob cared).

              • karbotect@feddit.de
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                0
                ·
                1 year ago

                These Iraqis are not Swedish citizens. The book burning is happening in Sweden. I don’t agree with the violent response by these hooligans in Iraq and they should be held responsible. There is no rule of law in Iraq, so no idea how Iraqi authorities will respond.

                But the book burning should not have happened in the first place, not because of the reaction in Iraq, but because it is not something a civilised society should condone.

                I will not comment on this any further. These are my thoughts on this topic.

        • Don_alForno@feddit.de
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          1 year ago

          How does person A burning a book influence person B’s freedom to exercise a religion exactly? Your religion binds you, not everybody else.

          Every single religious person in the world needs to come to terms with the fact that the majority of other people in the world does not believe their religion to be true and does not believe their holy book to be holy. That’s part of living in a connected world.