Prosecutors in Stockholm launch preliminary investigation into suspected sabotage, hours after Germany dubs cable failure part of a ‘hybrid operation’

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Swedish authorities say they have detected a Chinese ship moving near two telecoms cables that failed within hours of each other on the Baltic Sea bed in recent days.

Prosecutors in Stockholm have launched a preliminary investigation into suspected sabotage, hours after Germany dubbed the cable failure part of a “hybrid operation”.

On Sunday morning at about 10am, Swedish authorities registered problems with a data cable under the Baltic Sea from the Öland island to Lithuania. At 4am on Monday, telecoms operators in Finland and Germany reported problems with another cable called C-Lion-1.

Both cables were damaged in the Swedish economic zone, prompting prosecutors in Stockholm to take the investigation lead.

  • federal reverseMEnglish
    1·
    1 month ago

    That’s a response to an argument I was not making. I share your non-enthusiasm about .ml.

    I was talking about the social cost of locking out the creators of Lemmy. It’s reasonable to argue that that social cost is worth bearing. But it’s imo unreasonable to pretend it doesn’t exist.

    However, I would caution that .ml is the standard instance that many people start out at, because that’s the site promoted from Lemmy’s GitHub and from join-lemmy:org. There are reasonable people caught among the unreasonable ones.

    I’d object to [.ml] being the “only community that supports an attempted genocide” [emphasis mine], for two reasons:

    • The Grad and Bear instances also exist and are more consistently pro-Russian. They are already defederated from e.g. feddit.org, precisely because there is no social cost associated with defederating them.
    • I find it hard to accept this stance of absolute moral superiority. What the Russian government inflicts on Ukraine is atrocious but not entirely unparalleled.

    [Edith: formatting]

    • 0x815OPEnglish
      11·
      1 month ago

      What the Russian government inflicts on Ukraine is atrocious but not entirely unparalleled.

      What does that mean? The aggressor here is Russia, they started the war unprovoked. What exactly is ‘unparalleled’?

      • federal reverseMEnglish
        1·
        1 month ago

        I was talking about genocide and offensive wars in general, not the context of this particular war.

        • 0x815OPEnglish
          11·
          1 month ago

          So what does that mean? If .lm communities openly support Russia’s war in Ukraine, is it a ‘stance of absolute moral superiority’ to condemn this because the same happens elsewhere? (It should be a matter of course, but just to mention it: We must condemn genocide everywhere, no matter where it happens.)

          • federal reverseMEnglish
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            30 days ago

            I am admittedly having a hard time putting my contention with this into words in a way that makes sense. I may have chosen the wrong hill to die on. In which case, sorry for that “absolute moral stance”. I do think the remainder of that comment holds up, though.

            • 0x815OPEnglish
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              28 days ago

              So it’s the only community that is openly supporting genocide, right? That’s obvious I guess.

              • federal reverseMEnglish
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                27 days ago

                Absolutely not. I mentioned the Bear and Grad servers before. I am pretty sure you’ll find niches supporting the Gaza war or supporting other genocidal conflicts.

                Since .ml is the server advertized to people via join-lemmy:org, it also attracts a more diverse crowd, so not every user there is a tankie.

                • 0x815OPEnglish
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                  27 days ago

                  No, not every user is a tankie there. I perfectly agree with that. Many users are unaware when they join the server.

                  But those who are responsible there are the same or at least have the same mindset like the Bear and Grad servers.