• superkret
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    12 days ago

    Ah yes, if the democratic party had tactically shifted candidates at the right time, the US and the world could have continued business as usual for another 50 years.
    Definitely. Absolutely!

    No reason at all to consider that maybe people are completely fed up with the entire system, which strip-mines the planet’s resources and the fruits of the workers’ labor, to hand them to a dozen ghouls at the top.

    And lacking literally ANY sane option for change, they chose an insane one.

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        12 days ago

        He isn’t.
        He’s a collectively shouted “fuck you” to the American political establishment.
        He’s the result of a system that made peaceful protest toothless and brings the hammer down on anyone trying to enact change through direct action.
        His voters used the only means they have to slap the political old guard (of both parties) in the face, and enjoy their desperation for a while. They didn’t feel like they had much to lose anyway.

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          Ah yes, I feel I can no longer peacefully protest so I think I’ll just standby and do nothing so a guy who thinks protesters should be shot or deported can take the reins. That’ll show ‘em!

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            11 days ago

            I don’t know if you noticed, but electing Trump wasn’t a measured, logical, sensible decision.
            Criticising how Trump’s policies don’t improve his voters’ outlook is already missing the point entirely.

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        12 days ago

        He isn’t, but if you want something different from the same establishment bullshit that we’ve had for decades, he’s the only option.

        If you’re on the right, you have the populist/fascist asshole you’ve always wanted.

        If you’re on the left, you either vote for neoliberalism to protect yourself from fascism, or you don’t vote at all.

        This time around, the left chose the latter. We’re fucking tired, and it’s the Dems that wore us out by never listening to a single fucking thing we asked for.

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          “I got tired of the system so I decided to let it burn down and take the lives of millions with it”

          See Ukraine

          See Gaza

          See promises of mass deportation

          But yes, you’re justified in your non participation because you didn’t actively vote for him, you just enabled his people to hand the control to a madman because you got tired of trying.

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            12 days ago

            OP isn’t talking about himself. He’s talking about why so many libs sat it out.

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      This is it. Democrats will continue to talk about how they failed at execution so they don’t have to talk about the real problem: their platform. At least with Trump some folks think there’s a chance he shakes apart the whole system.

      I voted for Harris, but I knew it was a lost cause from the moment she became the de facto nominee. She was a status quo candidate in a change election.