Because you now did it to yourself.

  • Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    You can’t just ignore how the government works and the fact that Democrats never had a real majority in the Senate thanks to Sinema and Manchin.

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          2 months ago

          You’re ignoring that 2 independents caucus with Democrats. It’s dishonest to exclude them. But you’re splitting hairs because it’s convenient for your excuses.

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            2 months ago

            Two independents from conservative states that barely align with democrats. Why do you handwave this away so easily???

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              2 months ago

              One of the independents is Bernie Sanders.

              Manchin and Sinema were both capital-D Democrats at the time they did everything you wanted.

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                They did NOT do everything. It fact we barely got them to do much. All this information is publicly available. Their voting records are available to see. None of this is hidden. They are the primary reason most of the bills that DID pass were almost completely neutered because they were negotiated down or stalled. This also happened only a few years ago. We are not talking about last decade.

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                  They did NOT do everything.

                  God damn, you’re bad at reading. First you act like Manchin and Sinema were independents when they were blocking shit for you, and now you’re ignoring parts of my sentence to make it contrary to what I said.

                  Manchin and Sinema did everything that YOU WANTED THEM TO DO. They blocked legislation. That’s all you wanted.

                  There is no point in arguing with you since you selectively pretend to be unable to read.

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                    I’m not sure where the confusion is. My whole point in that those two shits (Manchin and Sinema) did not vote with the party and blocked legislation. They worked against progressive legislation. Many of the bills had progressive policies that were taken out because of those two idiots. I’m for progressive policies but even I recognize the Democratic party was held hostage by these two shits. I thought I was clear???

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              THEY DID. Unlike Manchin and Sinema, independents caucused with the party.

              The Democratic caucus had 50 seats. We gave them the seats. They used them like you wanted.

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                I am talking about Sinema and Manchin only. They may have had a D next to their name, but they were not on the side of Democrats when it mattered.

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                  And we gave Democrats those seats.

                  Lying and saying that we only gave Democrats 48 just because 2 of them did everything you wanted doesn’t mean that we didn’t give Democrats what they needed.