• BobGnarley@lemm.ee
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    Dude, WHAT. This is totally against what Linux and Open source in general stand for.

    I don’t support the thing that I’m sure was their reason for this but I definitely don’t support banning someone from contributing to an open system solely off nationality.

    So what eventually only the “good guys” can contribute to and use open source software? Who exactly decides who the “good guys” are in this scenario? USA? China?

    The implications of what this can cause in the future for potentially all of the open source community is absolutely sad. We should welcome all our fellow human beings to contributing to open source.

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        Yeah, being from Russia is a lot different from being associated with the Russian government.

        Lies! You’re a communist! Russian troll!

        /s for the obtuse

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        …and we don’t know whether they’re the former or the latter, no? So maybe a little early to get outraged?

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          Considering the US foreign policy and the impact it has on the world, regardless of whether the white house is R or D, i propose to ban all american devs… preemptively, ya know?

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            Honestly I wish that was a principle that the internet embraced more. We’re so trigger-happy to be outraged.

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                Oh geez, this the third reply by the same account… Again, I’m just saying that we don’t know whether the contributors were assumed guilty, or if they have actual ties to sanctioned companies.

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            No, I’m saying that if the banned people are only banned because they’re associated with the Russian government (/employed by sanctioned companies), then I’m not going to get outraged over the kernel maintainers. I do not expect them to break the law just to die on this hill.

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                This is all hypothetical

                Yes, that is exactly my point: let’s not get all worked up about something where we have almost zero facts. Although:

                open source is beholden to western laws and corporate practices

                is definitely the case for the Linux Foundation: it’s beholden to US laws. And wake-up call or not, a foundation would always be incorporated somewhere, and beholden to the laws of that somewhere.

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      Reminds me of a comment the other day on a post about Ventoy. Whatever the situation there is, which definitely needs clarification still, the person was saying that you shouldn’t trust it at all because the maintainer is Chinese, even though he has emigrated away. Because the CCP will be able to leverage his family still there to force him to create a backdoor.

      That’s just thinly veiled racism in my opinion.

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        That’s plain racism honestly.

        I knew a (asian) guy who was working for a government contractor serving the US military. The racism is very serious to say the least. He got framed when something went down and was almost tried with treason. (that carries the death penalty) The authorities hit him with questions about his loyalty to the US for 5 hours even though he grew up in the US and so did his parents.

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      As far as I can read from that, they’re still maintainers, just have had their credit removed from the contributors page, no?

      Still a strange thing to do and I look forwards to an explanation.

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        it’s straight up illegal for the Linux foundation to deal with Russians.

        [Citation needed]

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            I gotta say, that seems likely. Not sanctions in a direct way, but indirectly through funding or other assistance.

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              Exactly. But mods here are too butthurt to accept that and rather delete my comments, so they can live in their delusions - which was my point