• Gsus4@programming.dev
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    5 months ago

    This is so 2015…now it would be “Once elected, I will murder every single one of you” and they would reply with joy in unisson: “Hurrah, free lamb chops for everyone, you’re our saviour!!!”

      • 33550336@lemmy.world
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        5 months ago

        it creates biased impression that democracy is generally like this. it’s like showing that ussr sucked, so any leftist ideology must sucks too

        • OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml
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          5 months ago

          Okay but the USSR didn’t suck, it was a good attempt at workers democracy with massive problems, but smaller problems than bourgeois democracy

          • 33550336@lemmy.world
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            5 months ago

            Yes, it also helped to liberate woman and gave them more opportunities, decreased illiteracy and MASSIVE russian retardancy, but overall it sucked at many levels and from the very start:

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Terror – look at the passage on tortures. This alone made me to despise USSR.

            • OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml
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              5 months ago

              The red terror was much smaller than the white terror, and the torture is nothing that capitalist countries don’t do on the regular. I for one would like to decrease the amount of torture in the world.

              • 33550336@lemmy.world
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                5 months ago

                Yeah, I’ve heard about the white terror. This does not justify people who supposedly wanted a better world. I am quite sure that now amount of torture in western countries is negligible when compared with China and North Korea, and mostly by intrinsic flaws of e.g. police than political causes. And yes, I’ve heard about exceptions as Guantanamo or Pinoshit. Actually Pinoshit and Franco should not be counted as nominal western mindset, since they are authoritarian fascist piece of shits. I despise all authoritarian despots equally, no matter fascist Franco or “communist” Stalin.

                • OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml
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                  5 months ago

                  I am quite sure that now amount of torture in western countries is negligible when compared with China and North Korea

                  This sounds like western chauvinism. Hoe can you be sure? The US has soo many blacksites, hell even local PDs have them.

                  Guantanamo or Pinoshit. Actually Pinoshit and Franco should not be counted as nominal western mindset, since they are authoritarian fascist piece of shits.

                  Pinochet was straight up supported by the west until it was too politically inconvenient, but by that time he’d already done his job of eradicating the left. Franco wouldn’t have won if it wasn’t for Britain, France, etc, enforcing “no arms and troops shipments” for the USSR but not for Italy and Germany. And they also weren’t willing to accept Spanish republican gold.

                  I despise all authoritarian despots equally, no matter fascist Franco or “communist” Stalin.

                  Hmm. One of these people was a dictator. The other was democratically elected and lead the industrialization of a society that allowed it to defeat the industrial superpower that was Germany and end the holocaust.