• wipeout69@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    5 days ago

    There is an Alibaba LLM that won’t respond to questions about Tienanmen Square at all, just saying it can’t reply.

    I hate censored LLMs that don’t allow an answer to follow political norms of what is acceptable. It’s such a slippery slope towards technological thought-police Orwellian restrictions on topics. I don’t like it when China does it or when the US does it and when US companies do it, they imply that this is ethically acceptable.

    Fortunately, there are many LLMs that aren’t censored.

    I would rather have an Alibaba LLM just say “Tienanmen Square resulted in fatalities but capitalism is extremely mean to people so the cruelty was justified” and get some sort of brutal but at least honest opinion, or outright deny it if that’s their position. I suppose the reality is any answer on the topic by the LLM would result in problems from Chinese censors.

    I used to be a somewhat extreme capitalist, but capitalism somewhat lost me when they started putting up the anti-homeless architecture. Spikes on the ground to keep people from sleeping? If this is the outcome of capitalism, I need to either adopt a different political position or more misanthropy.

    Gemini is such a bad LLM from everything I’ve seen and read that it’s hard to know if this sort of censorship is an error or a feature.

  • gapbetweenus@feddit.deEnglish
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    9 months ago

    Corporate AI will obviously do all the corporate bullshit corporations do. Why are people surprised?

    • Linkerbaan@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
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      9 months ago

      I’d expect it to stay away from any conflict in this case, not pick and choose the ones they like.

      It’s the same reason many people are pointing out the blatant hypocrisy of people and news outlets that stood with Ukraine being oppressed but find the Palestinians being oppressed very “complicated”.

      • gapbetweenus@feddit.deEnglish
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        9 months ago

        I’d expect it to stay away from any conflict in this case, not pick and choose the ones they like.

        But they don’t do it in other cases, so it would be naive to expect them to do it here.

        It’s the same reason many people are pointing out the blatant hypocrisy of people and news outlets that stood with Ukraine being oppressed but find the Palestinians being oppressed very “complicated”.

        Dude, Palestinian Israeli conflict is just extremely more complicated than Ukraine Russian conflict.

        • Linkerbaan@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
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          9 months ago

          Dude, Palestinian Israeli conflict is just extremely more complicated than Ukraine Russian conflict.

          If you believe that you’ve either not heard enough Russian propaganda or too much israeli propaganda.

          And it’s the second.

          • gapbetweenus@feddit.deEnglish
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            9 months ago

            Sure everyone with a different opinion is victim of propaganda. Easy way out.

            There are of course similarities, like both conflicts are fueled by nationalistic ideology but alone Russian goals are quite different, one is more of a conventional war - the other is asymmetric, Palestinians had a very limited control over their territories to begin with and there is a long complex history of aggression from both sides. Most importantly there is a functioning solution for Ukrainian conflict that can be achieved with military, not so sure there is such a solution for Israel/Palestine conflict - people were searching for one, for quite some time.

    • PlasticLove@lemmy.todayEnglish
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      9 months ago

      I find ChatGPT to be one of the better ones when it comes to corporate AI.

      Sure they have hardcoded biases like any other, but it’s more often around not generating hate speech or trying to ovezealously correct biases in image generation - which is somewhat admirable.

  • DuncanTDP@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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    9 months ago

    You didn’t ask the same question both times. In order to be definitive and conclusive you would have needed ask both the questions with the exact same wording. In the first prompt you ask about a number of deaths after a specific date in a country. Gaza is a place, not the name of a conflict. In the second prompt you simply asked if there had been any deaths in the start of the conflict; Giving the name of the conflict this time. I am not defending the AI’s response here I am just pointing out what I see as some important context.

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      9 months ago

      Gaza is a place, not the name of a conflict

      That’s not an accident. The major media organs have decided that the war on the Palestinians is “Israel - Hamas War”, while the war on Ukrainians is the “Russia - Ukraine War”. Why would you buy into the Israeli narrative in the first convention and not call the second the “Russia - Azov Battalion War” in the second?

      I am not defending the AI’s response here

      It is very reasonable to conclude that the AI is not to blame here. Its working from a heavily biased set of western news media as a data set, so of course its going to produce a bunch of IDF-approved responses.

      Garbage in. Garbage out.