Firefox stans are some of the most annoying people.
Yes, I know I’m contributing to a Chromium monopoly, thank you for telling me. Firefox just doesn’t do the things I need my browser to do.
And what needs would that be?
Off the top of my head:
- Tab tiling
- Multi-level tab bars
- Workspaces
- Automatic session backups
- Sidebar panels
- Spotlight-like global search
- Commands to toggle parts of the Ul
- Custom toolbar buttons
I’m pretty sure that all of that are from extensions you would have installed for chrome?
Spotlight-like global search
Whats that supposed to mean? That you can use macOS Spotlight to search the web with? Yeah same thing with firefox, atleast under linux.
Commands to toggle parts of the Ul
Like pressing F12 for fullscreen?
Custom toolbar buttons
Like themes?
I’m pretty sure that all of that are from extensions you would have installed for chrome?
No? Chrome isn’t the only web browser in existence.
Whats [Spotlight-like global search] supposed to mean?
That I can bring up a search bar that’ll search my history, closed tabs, bookmarks, open tabs, the web and more all at once.
Like pressing F12 for fullscreen?
Not only that, also selectively hiding the tab bar, address bar or specific sidebar panels.
Like themes?
No, like custom toolbar buttons that do custom things when clicked.
fascinating. which browser are you using?
Why?
I guess because of the web environment integrity API proposed by Google. It enables your browser to tell the website it hasn’t installed AdBlock or any other undesired add on. This is marketed as improving security, but will mainly be used to block browsers which block adds.
I don’t care what browser you use
Also I like Edge. It works great and Google can kiss my butt
Based ai feeder
That’s one of the smaller problems…
Edge is based off chromium, same “engine” that powers Chrome. As most browsers are.
Yeah, it’s basically chrome without the bloat, less spying, and without the prohibition on ad blockers
Are we talking about the same browser?
Edge has all of those things in spades.
It spies for someone else though
I know that switching away from a Chromium based browser would be great, but Firefox just can’t compete with the Chromium bookmark system. That was actually the main reason I switched to Brave instead of Firefox a few years back, and from what I can see, Firefox still hasn’t changed anything about their bookmark-manager. :/
What do you mean? What is special about brave’s or chromiums bookmark manager?
Right what platinum coated bookmarks are they using? Firefox syncs bookmarks, has them organized by folders, has a bookmarks bar, can pin them to the start page, idk what else they need
As I’ve stated in the other comment, I mainly ment the UI. But there is another feature I like to use, which is the window-specific bookmark manager. I usually keep my browser activities separated with different windows(e.g. one for youtube documentaries and one for learning). With the Chromium manager, I can have one manager-tab per window. That’s not possible with the Firefox manager. It’s a small thing, but hey, it’s convenient.
Then again, the bookmark manager wasn’t the only reason I chose Brave over Firefox. If I remember correctly, I had three reasons why I chose Brave in the end:
- The bookmark manager - Reasons are stated here and in the other comment.
- Brave Ads - The privacy respecting ads make my mind feel at ease when using an adblocker, as I’m still contributing something.
- This one is the weakest one: Firefox just felt slower for me, to be honest.
I would’ve just put up with point three, but in order to leave the first two, Firefox would have to have other features I really want tu use. And that’s the problem - it doesn’t have those.
I probably should have specified that I meant the UI. You can do everything in Firefox, but for me, the Chromium UI just looks nicer, it’s “cleaner” for me, even if it comes at the cost of having the address-bar in a submenu, for example. Because I use the bookmark-manager quite often, that’s a majority points I consider. For 99% of the people, Firefox will do the job just as well as Chromium especially if you just use the bookmarks, not the manager. For some it probably looks even better. It’s just preference.
It feels like last week we were defending proprietary software, ads, and tracking against those mean old FOSS zealots who actually care about privacy and freedom. Are you saying we care about those things now?
We now know how much we do or don’t care about these things, based on all arguments provided. Some people might even give firefox a try after last week, which is great. I’m saying we have seen enough memes full of browser logo’s for now.
Firefox mobile app sucks on my phone. Not sure about the rest of you. Doesn’t seem like there is a great alternative though.
Works just fine for me. Though it’s been a while since I used anything else, I don’t really have a frame of reference. That being said, I can install ublock origin and dark reader in firefox so I won’t ever use anything else on my phone.
Never felt like I’m missing out… and I care about good UX
Is there anything that’s like… not based on chromium… or firefox?
Epiphany uses WebKit, but it doesn’t have working add-on support yet, so you will still have lots of ads and cookie banners.
I use it as a secondary browser if something doesn’t work in Librewolf, but for me the internet is pretty much unusable without “i (still) don’t care about cookies” and UBlock Origin, so it only works as a backup for me.
There are also some Browsers using QTWebengine which uses Blink (the core of Chromium (meaning technically not chromium itself)) like Qutebrowser and Falkon.
Pale Moon and Basilisk which are based on an old version of Firefox and diverged quite a bit.
Konqueror which uses KHTML (predecessor of WebKit (predecessor of Blink)).
NetSurf idk haven’t tried it.
Then there is stuff like Ladybird, which will crash all the time. Links, ELinks, Lynx, w3m, Links2 are text based. Discontinued Internet Explorer. Old versions of MS Egde. Old versions of Opera. Basically nothing else that is usable.
