• gnate@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    I don’t accept the premise – the pattern is read on transport, yes? Rather than a fixed record of one’s composition. Therefore, the only aging you won’t be doing is for the duration of the transport process itself. Chump change.

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      10 months ago

      They regularly allude to the idea of “pattern buffers” that hold on to a copy of you for as long as the plot requires.

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        10 months ago

        Sure, but I don’t think those are used as a matter of standard practice. The idea of some immutable, archival pattern being used for each trip doesn’t track.

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          10 months ago

          I thought you were read into the buffer until your pattern was wholly scanned and then replicated onto the target from it

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    10 months ago

    This happens in the episode where everyone prematurely ages, and they are sent through the transporter to make them their “normal” ages. There’s no reason given why they couldn’t do that all the time.

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      10 months ago

      Even more relevant there was that episode where a transporter accident turns Picard, Guinan, Ro and Kiko into twelve year olds and nobody points out they just discovered transporter induced immortality.

      What really gets me about that episode is all of the effected characters immediately want to return to their normal age and nobody says “Hold up, I’m very okay with a couple extra decades of life” or centuries in Guinans case I suppose.

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        10 months ago

        Especially Picard who, you know, has the health thing that accelerates with age or whatever

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    10 months ago

    There are multiple answers, with different degrees of truth

    The patterns aren’t (typically) stored long term, something implied about transporter buffers seems to indicate they can hold incredible amounts of data that starts to degrade very quickly. New patterns are taken each time they transport AFAIK.

    But, instead maybe that “cell damage” is just part of the details you get when you retain enough pattern detail to include peoples recent memories.

    But, instead maybe the actors age in real life and keeping track of making them look perpetually youthful with makeup would be really hard so whatever the excuse is it’s just an excuse.

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      10 months ago

      something implied about transporter buffers seems to indicate they can hold incredible amounts of data that starts to degrade very quickly

      Exactly. I always understood the difference between replicators and transporters to be the level of detail in the scan. The replicators don’t need as much detail to make a convincing steak or a cup of tea. So they can store those scans at a much lower resolution and have a full, permanent library.

      The transporters need an immense amount of detail to perfectly store your pattern, to avoid messing with your brain chemistry and causing transporter psychosis. It’s too much data to keep on hand for every crew member.

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    10 months ago

    I assume there’s some in universe reason why they can’t / don’t keep copies of the teleportation data, otherwise everyone would be effectively indestructible

    “Oh no the captain got eaten by a space tiger”

    “No problem, I’ll teleport a backup from an hour ago, he’ll be there in 5 minutes”

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      10 months ago

      If you’d start this game, it’s hard to end it. Immortality, swarms of clones created just for labor, identity steal, and worse of all – people would grow negligent and the series would lose any stakes.

      I think that at some point everyone agreed that the cycle of life is a core of what makes us humanoids and pushes us to strive for self-improvement.

      It also prevents societal degradation, because immortality goes hand in hand with tyranny and lack of meaningful natural change.